Lukasz Parsley ??

[MartynB]

It's so funny how he keeps trying to hold this position... Like he's inocent., He just can't stand and be counted for who he is at all.... What a oily character!!

Yes, he's probably lucky he isn't in the UK as I'd suspect someone would have gone door knocking

Not a laughing matter for those that have handed over money and got nothing in return though

[dave goodall]

Your quiet welcome to post on the bullpup forum all this where couple of his very good friends are members also on the Facebook bullpup mad group where I no Lukas and hs friends are members where it won't be deleated posting where he or his shooting related buddy's can't see it isn't going to affect him. I no he's on most Facebook shooting related groups where he totes his business

[lensman57]

Yes, he's probably lucky he isn't in the UK as I'd suspect someone would have gone door knocking

Not a laughing matter for those that have handed over money and got nothing in return though

To my shame, the money I sent him which was 80% of the price of the stock, I borrowed from my wife. So it is not only annoying for me but also very embarrassing. Strange how people allow themselves to be dragged into situations like this.

A.G

[MrGrumpy]

Is there no way of contacting the Polish police and getting some legal action going ?

[Squirrelking]

There's a reason scammers use Western Union, I'm honestly surprised that wasn't the biggest red flag.

[Murphy]

Is there no way of contacting the Polish police and getting some legal action going ?

Our police are not interested in money owed so I doubt the Polish police are.

[angrybear]

Our police are not interested in money owed so I doubt the Polish police are.

That's because it's breach of contract which is a civil matter rather than criminal, even if the police wanted to act they can't because any money was sent willingly, not stolen.

I think that to be criminal it would have to be proved that from the beginning there was never any intention to provide any goods, and because a few stocks have been supplied that is obviously not the case.

I'm not on faceache but can't you start a group/page for people he's ripped off ? the adverse publicity might get some reply.

[secretagentmole]

That's because it's breach of contract which is a civil matter rather than criminal, even if the police wanted to act they can't because any money was sent willingly, not stolen.

I think that to be criminal it would have to be proved that from the beginning there was never any intention to provide any goods, and because a few stocks have been supplied that is obviously not the case.

I'm not on faceache but can't you start a group/page for people he's ripped off ? the adverse publicity might get some reply.

Might one suggest you research fraudulently obtaining money by electronic transfer, which is as far as I am aware, precisely what has happened!

[angrybear]

Might one suggest you research fraudulently obtaining money by electronic transfer, which is as far as I am aware, precisely what has happened!

I would class that under proving the intention to defraud, if the item never existed then it's provable fraud because there were never any goods, but as he did supply some stocks he can wriggle out by claiming that he intended to supply them but outside situation has got on top of him & that when possible he intends to eventually supply the goods, which makes it breach of contract.

It's all down to nit-picking &/or interpretation but consumer law is often civil rather than criminal, which is one reason the small claims court exists,
I've had the situation of someone taking goods from me (he had a water supply from me) & then point blank refusing to pay for what his own meter reading said he had taken, but the police could not act because it wasn't theft it was breach of contract as had in the past paid for some of it, so a case for small claims.

[RobF]

Is there no way of contacting the Polish police and getting some legal action going ?

EU small claims court.

Depends on the amount owed as to if it's worth it, but it works up to 2500 euros I think.