HW40, Gamo compact, IZH46M or Rohm twinmaster Top?

[MojoCrow]

hmmmpphhh Is this a good time to find out if you're all raving conservatives and will kick me off the site, when I confess....... I bat for the other side!!eek:

Oh dear, you're not french are you?


Anyway on this forum it's best to think of the scene from Full Metal Jacket when Gunnery Sargeant Hartman says: 'I am hard but I am fair. There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on pistol shooters, rifle shooters, co2, spring, pcp, rimfire, fullbore, match, benchrest, ft or hft. Here you are all equally worthless'.

[Linnet67]

Oh dear, you're not french are you?


Anyway on this forum it's best to think of the scene from Full Metal Jacket when Gunnery Sargeant Hartman says: 'I am hard but I am fair. There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on pistol shooters, rifle shooters, co2, spring, pcp, rimfire, fullbore, match, benchrest, ft or hft. Here you are all equally worthless'.

Nice

[derekm]

I imagine the Alpha may have been discontinued in the UK because they won't have sold many at the silly price they had on it. I bought mine from the manufacturer in the Czech Republic. They are still on Czech websites and as Nige says, still available in Spain. Order from there maybe? Both in the EU, but AFAIK you cannot buy on a credit card in the CZ Rep.

I respect Nige's preference for the Alfa (and don't regret buying mine), but I've also used an Aeron and personally I found it superb. There should be quite a few S/H potentially available in the UK. CO2 isn't flavour of the month right now, so a CO2 pistol will cost you less and shoot just as well!!

BTW I believe the 10m world record is still held by a CO2 gun.... .

[MattMoore]

I'm in a very similar position as the original poster of this thread.
I'm on the look out for alfa, aeron etc second hand, whats the best way to try and locate one?
So far my travels on google have turned up fruitless apart from one alfa.

[cookie]

I'm in a very similar position as the original poster of this thread.
I'm on the look out for alfa, aeron etc second hand, whats the best way to try and locate one?
So far my travels on google have turned up fruitless apart from one alfa.

I thought Lynne was the original poster of this thread.

[MattMoore]

I never said Lynne wasnt the original poster?
The only 2 sites I have found are ukgunroom, and guntrader.
I was wondering if there any other sites out there that I have missed.

Thanks

Matt

[Linnet67]

Erratum - err I was misinformed by the internet . It appears that these may now be discontinued in the US, but having contacted the company direct thanks to the input from the Nige & Derek. They have informed me they ARE still supplying to the UK via:

Edgar Brothers
Macclesfield, Cheshire
Tel.: +44 1625 613 177

thanks for all the information guys....

Yours more confused than ever!

Linnet

ps Seriously you've been fab and I have a good short list to try and locate to have ago with and make that final decision. Many thanks again.

[cookie]

I never said Lynne wasnt the original poster?

Matt

Sorry Miss read it.

[derekm]

I'm in a very similar position as the original poster of this thread.
I'm on the look out for alfa, aeron etc second hand, whats the best way to try and locate one?
So far my travels on google have turned up fruitless apart from one alfa.

Put a wanted ad. on here, including the "Collectable Airguns".

Don't forget that the "world class" manufacturers nearly all made CO2 guns between the single stroke pneumatics and the pre-charged models.

These can be found at good prices, again because they are not flavour of the month.

Apart from the propellant, they are probably 99.999999% the same performance and quality as today's £1000 offerings.

[harvey_s]

Just to throw in another wild card....
If you can find one - a FAS AP604 is a good compromise...
Manufacturers details here...
http://www.dominoguns.it/catalogo/?p...ria-compressa-

Its as light as a gamo compact, significantly easier to cock (same overlever method) and has a massively better trigger and grip.
Its very well made too - no plastic anywhere.
I've owned both and the FAS will easily outshoot you for quite a few years while you save up for something better.

BAR were selling them new at one point, but typically S/H they go at about the £150-200 mark

However, they are not so easy to find - but you could try a wanted ad.

[Prone Shooter]

Just to throw in another wild card....
If you can find one - a FAS AP604 is a good compromise...
Manufacturers details here...
http://www.dominoguns.it/catalogo/?p...ria-compressa-

Its as light as a gamo compact, significantly easier to cock (same overlever method) and has a massively better trigger and grip.
Its very well made too - no plastic anywhere.
I've owned both and the FAS will easily outshoot you for quite a few years while you save up for something better.

BAR were selling them new at one point, but typically S/H they go at about the £150-200 mark

However, they are not so easy to find - but you could try a wanted ad.

Another vote for the Fas from me. Probably the best over lever pnuematic made and far far superior to the compact and the HW40. I do have a 604 for sale on behalf of a member of the club where I coach. PM if interested.

A word or warning with the HW40 (oh and true glows are not allowed in ISSF competition), on occasions I have noticed a prominant muzzle flip when being used by shooters with a light grip (which you should be using anyway) and in particular kids and ladies. It would only really be an issue paper punching, but it will and does affect accuracy.

The Compact is the best all round starter match pistol but may need some work to the grip and a good polish of the sears to improve it.

My advice whilst not diminishing what others like Derek and Nige have posted would be to go for a compact, 604 or the Alpha to start you off, then as funds become available, an LP2 Junior although Walther also do a junior version which is worth looking at.

Finally the Rohms (the fact that there have been very few replies might be worth considering). Great for general shooting and fun but they have two major draw backs for serious 10m which are a fiddly single shot magazine and a slow lock time due to the hammer having to strike the release valve. Neither of these are helpful in competition.

Good luck.

Bob

[Jon]

Hi I'm using a HW40 (an old one without tru-glo) daily to practice for the UBC competition and love it. Like you, I've been thinking about getting a new pistol recently and have been doing my homework. I've concluded that I want a Pardini K-58 or FWB100 series, it's just a matter of tracking one down. Have you had a look here? http://www.egun.de/ I know some BBS members have bought successfully off there.

I've tried a Gamo Compact and didn't like it at all. The grip is better than that of HW40, but that's about it. It wasn't nice to fire, the build quality wasn't great and the trigger is terrible. I don't know how it gets the following it does

Good luck deciding - it's so hard!

Jon

[Linnet67]

Hi I'm using a HW40 (an old one without tru-glo) daily to practice for the UBC competition and love it. Like you, I've been thinking about getting a new pistol recently and have been doing my homework. I've concluded that I want a Pardini K-58 or FWB100 series, it's just a matter of tracking one down. Have you had a look here? http://www.egun.de/ I know some BBS members have bought successfully off there.

I've tried a Gamo Compact and didn't like it at all. The grip is better than that of HW40, but that's about it. It wasn't nice to fire, the build quality wasn't great and the trigger is terrible. I don't know how it gets the following it does

Good luck deciding - it's so hard!

Jon

Hi Jon
Isn't it just!! Thanks for the info. I had heard there was an #### for guns but couldn't locate it - obv cos its german.

Linnet

[Firestorm]

I'm in a very similar position as the original poster of this thread.

Thought you were going to come out of the closet for a second there Matt......

Russ

[MattMoore]

Well there has been times with my girlfriend where she nearly drives me to it lol