Postage question - PF48 content

[Inspector 71]

Thanks to the latter and former responders.

What a bummer.

How do people move them around then? Risk it with other couriers with the "sporting goods" blag?

[tinbum]

Thanks to the latter and former responders.

What a bummer.

How do people move them around then? Risk it with other couriers with the "sporting goods" blag?

RFD transfer is safest but expensive, some use the lower end couriers who don't allow it, but also don't have x-ray machines. Trouble is they are predominently staffed by shaved monkeys who see a well packaged parcel as "A Challenge"!

[villaman]

Take the cylinder of if you can and sent it separate

[bighit]

I tried to get a dive bottle sent via an RFD. Tried 4 and only one said they could send it. It's easy to get the bottle sent to an RFD from the bottle supplier but not the other way round.

The RFD said it depends on the contract between the customer and and the carrier . It never got sent in the end due to the cost . £40 to send just the bottle.

Trying to send it as sporting goods when it has it own definition is stupid. It's specifically mentioned as a firearm ( airgun) so there is no "it's a sporting good" argument.

If you send as a sporting good and it's found and destroyed then you only have yourself to blame .

[Johnson3392]

Take the cylinder of if you can and sent it separate

Only if you take off the valve. Otherwise it is still classed as a pressurised cylinder (by PF or Royal Mail).

[rancidtom]

If you declare it as a "low powered sporting air rifle" it is on the permitted list. The definition doesn't exclude PCP's but my advice to anyone sending me a PCP with a gauge fitted is to send it empty. Pressure vessels and gas cartridges are excluded but if a bottle is screwed on to an air rifle it is classified as part of the air rifle. If bottles are to be sent separate then they should have valves removed and be declared as a flask or tube.
RFD's can send to other RFD's for FAC guns, private individuals can send to private individual or RFD only if it is a sub12 (sub6 for pistols).
If you don't declare the contents of the package it will certainly be x-rayed and sent for destruction if found to be a gun of any description, so declaring as sporting goods is not a good idea. If it has been declared as a "low powered sporting air rifle" and is damaged or lost in transit then you are able to claim but only to the minimum level of insurance (the standard shipping fee for the weight/size) which presently is only £100 so pack your gun well and declare it properly or you may not get any compensation at all if lost or damaged.
In all my years of shipping FAC guns to/from other RFD's and repaired guns back to private individuals I have had no losses or damage caused by PF48. The only gun which I have ever received in a damaged condition was posted to me by a customer who used "MyHermes" against my advice. They refused to pay any compensation saying the gun had been improperly packed and also was on their "banned goods" list so even if properly packed they would not have paid any compensation. After repair the gun was returned via PF48 with no problems.
RMSD will carry air guns but their size limits don't allow rifles, not even take down rifles sadly. Their minimum compensation level is £250 so worth considering if sending an air pistol but be sure to declare it as an air pistol (low powered sporting airgun) and you should be fine.

[angrybear]

Actually RMSD is £500 basic compensation for the 1pm service or £50 for the 9am service not £250.

RMSD also flies so will get X ray'd before being loaded, so if you use it for the compensation mark it "surface mail only - do not fly" as the CAA don't fly unaccompanied guns, I had one refused flight.

Strictly speaking you can't send a PCP due to the pressure cylinder/tube/bottle, but if you do decide too, send it empty with a note attached to the gun stating it is empty, that might save it being destroyed if it does get found.

[rancidtom]

I mark all guns as "Do Not Air Uplift" "Package to be signed for by addressee only. Do NOT leave with neighbour or in designated safe place".

[Logunner]

If you declare it as a "low powered sporting air rifle" it is on the permitted list. The definition doesn't exclude PCP's but my advice to anyone sending me a PCP with a gauge fitted is to send it empty. Pressure vessels and gas cartridges are excluded but if a bottle is screwed on to an air rifle it is classified as part of the air rifle. If bottles are to be sent separate then they should have valves removed and be declared as a flask or tube.
RFD's can send to other RFD's for FAC guns, private individuals can send to private individual or RFD only if it is a sub12 (sub6 for pistols).
If you don't declare the contents of the package it will certainly be x-rayed and sent for destruction if found to be a gun of any description, so declaring as sporting goods is not a good idea. If it has been declared as a "low powered sporting air rifle" and is damaged or lost in transit then you are able to claim but only to the minimum level of insurance (the standard shipping fee for the weight/size) which presently is only £100 so pack your gun well and declare it properly or you may not get any compensation at all if lost or damaged.
In all my years of shipping FAC guns to/from other RFD's and repaired guns back to private individuals I have had no losses or damage caused by PF48. The only gun which I have ever received in a damaged condition was posted to me by a customer who used "MyHermes" against my advice. They refused to pay any compensation saying the gun had been improperly packed and also was on their "banned goods" list so even if properly packed they would not have paid any compensation. After repair the gun was returned via PF48 with no problems.
RMSD will carry air guns but their size limits don't allow rifles, not even take down rifles sadly. Their minimum compensation level is £250 so worth considering if sending an air pistol but be sure to declare it as an air pistol (low powered sporting airgun) and you should be fine.

Do you have proof that it "will certainly be x-rayed"?

You don't, I'm sure of that...


No pressure cylinders no matter what they are attached to or part of. Please stop posting false info

[angrybear]

Do you have proof that it "will certainly be x-rayed"?

You don't, I'm sure of that...

It will be if sent RMSD by air, nothing to do with RM that's a CAA rule, all unaccompanied air freight will get an X-ray for security.