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    Thanks for posting the image of the box instructions. Interesting the instructions just refer to "a few spots of oil" rather than any particular type.

    Webley did amend the instructions for Mk 1 air pistols several times and it seems they did the same with the Mk 11 as well. That's the first example I have seen, where no particular type of oil is recommended and it stands to reason this would have been the earliest type.

    On a slightly different note, you have a fine boxed Webley in the original box. Personally I would store/display the pistol with the original box rather than case it. My box is not quite as clean, so I feel somewhat envious of your very fortunate find!

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    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Thanks for posting the image of the box instructions. Interesting the instructions just refer to "a few spots of oil" rather than any particular type.

    Webley did amend the instructions for Mk 1 air pistols several times and it seems they did the same with the Mk 11 as well. That's the first example I have seen, where no particular type of oil is recommended and it stands to reason this would have been the earliest type.

    On a slightly different note, you have a fine boxed Webley in the original box. Personally I would store/display the pistol with the original box rather than case it. My box is not quite as clean, so I feel somewhat envious of your very fortunate find!

    Kind regards,

    John
    I actually missed the “few spots of oil”! I hear you about the box but it’s sides have been totally wrapped in tan tape that must have been done many years ago, it dried out and really can’t be removed. Fortunately the best parts of the box are the top and inner top instructions. It just seems the gun is too nice for the box? Also want to have fun collecting a old pellet container, oil bottle and cleaning brush. I tend to store all my boxes out of harms way. I started casing my Civil War percussion revolvers as I collected them years ago, love the look. It it doesn’t come up to expectation the box will still be there.

    Here’s a Walther I cased: https://i.imgur.com/4EGtoOo.jpg
    Last edited by 45flint; 16-12-2017 at 03:03 AM.

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    That is a very nice wooden box that your LP53 resides in. Did you make it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grantb View Post
    That is a very nice wooden box that your LP53 resides in. Did you make it?
    No bought from a guy in Canada that is amazing. Here is the whole case. I have a passion for figured wood. You should see my guitars but that’s for another forum, lol.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/xxWP2
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    I actually missed the “few spots of oil”! I hear you about the box but it’s sides have been totally wrapped in tan tape that must have been done many years ago, it dried out and really can’t be removed. Fortunately the best parts of the box are the top and inner top instructions. It just seems the gun is too nice for the box? Also want to have fun collecting a old pellet container, oil bottle and cleaning brush. I tend to store all my boxes out of harms way. I started casing my Civil War percussion revolvers as I collected them years ago, love the look. It it doesn’t come up to expectation the box will still be there.

    Here’s a Walther I cased: https://i.imgur.com/4EGtoOo.jpg

    You could try methylene chloride (aka dichloromethane) to get the tape off. You can buy it on the bay, at least in the UK. I bought a boxed Hy-score from the US where the lid was completely covered in tan tape. After carefully sponging and soaking it for while with the solvent the tape peeled off OK without any damage to the underlying cardboard. or printing. You can just about see lines where the tape edges came, but the the result was a vast improvement over how it looked when first received. https://imgur.com/a/OdSvj. The label inside the lid was completely unaffected, except that the solvent removed some old oil and grease stains and its apperance was actually improved. https://imgur.com/a/F5rCf


    The methylene chloride is a powerful solvent for paint and the type of adhesive used on sticky tapes, but doesn't attack paper, cardboard, printing inks and pigments or water-based adhesives if used carefully. It evaporates quickly with no residues. The downside is that it is toxic if breathed in large amounts so best used outside or in a large room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccdjg View Post
    You could try methylene chloride (aka dichloromethane) to get the tape off. You can buy it on the bay, at least in the UK. I bought a boxed Hy-score from the US where the lid was completely covered in tan tape. After carefully sponging and soaking it for while with the solvent the tape peeled off OK without any damage to the underlying cardboard. or printing. You can just about see lines where the tape edges came, but the the result was a vast improvement over how it looked when first received. https://imgur.com/a/OdSvj. The label inside the lid was completely unaffected, except that the solvent removed some old oil and grease stains and its apperance was actually improved. https://imgur.com/a/F5rCf


    The methylene chloride is a powerful solvent for paint and the type of adhesive used on sticky tapes, but doesn't attack paper, cardboard, printing inks and pigments or water-based adhesives if used carefully. It evaporates quickly with no residues. The downside is that it is toxic if breathed in large amounts so best used outside or in a large room.
    Awesome, appreciate the thought, I will give it a try in Spring when I can get outside. If I could get the tape off successfully it would be something special. Thanks

    By the way that Hy-score multi barrel Sportster is the final gun on my Hyscore list to obtain. Been looking for a while and I’m in the country where they were made. That is a great example and your restoration of the box adds a lot. If I could do the same a box display might be more compelling. I just can’t stand looking at that tape!, you have given me hope.
    Last edited by 45flint; 16-12-2017 at 01:58 PM.

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