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    Unhappy 17 rem

    Excellent info provided but got me undecided now whether a CZ is the best option for .22 purchase or am I leaning toward a .17 the number of reviews lately in the shooting mags all seem to be praising this caliber much along the same lines as your comments. A recently read article /thread (cant quite remember which seem to be overloaded at the mo with fresh info) suggested that there could be considerable deviation in trajectory during shooting in strong winds with the .17 ?confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyhitman View Post
    Excellent info provided but got me undecided now whether a CZ is the best option for .22 purchase or am I leaning toward a .17 the number of reviews lately in the shooting mags all seem to be praising this caliber much along the same lines as your comments. A recently read article /thread (cant quite remember which seem to be overloaded at the mo with fresh info) suggested that there could be considerable deviation in trajectory during shooting in strong winds with the .17 ?confused

    Dont confuse the 17 rem and 17 hmr there completely different beasts

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    The 17 rem is truly a superb calibre which punches massively above its weight.

    Over the years, I have owned at least five 17 rem rifles and have fired many thousands of rounds in this cal - And I am probably this cals biggest fan and completely biased toward it.

    Once you get the powder / bullet combo right - Its hard not to love it. - Low noise and virtually recoiless - trajectory of a 220 swift for half the powder.

    In the past I have pushed the little 20 grn Vmax at 4460 fps - Considering it only uses 22 + grns of powder and has all the attributes listed above and is undoubtedly one of the best point and squirt rifles IMO

    My latest 17 rem has a Pacnor 9 twist fitted, and zaps the excellent and deadly 25grn Vmax at 3940 fps - using a mere 21.5 grn / Vit 133 to do so.

    With a little practice, vermin at 400 - 500 yrds is achiveble in the right conditions. The 17 rem is also an excellent fox calibre - Albiet it doesnt have the hitting power of the bigger 22's ands 6mm pills

    Safety wise, With the 17 FB - It has to be the safest centre fire calibre I know of. I can honestly say - I have never had a single bullet richocet in thousands of rounds

    With the exception of the 30 grn Berger bullet - The 17 cal bullet rarely exits TBH therefore delivers its full payload of energy into the target.

    Not much more to say - Except , anybody thinking of this calibre - dont listen to the guys who say they are barrel burners - they foul up every 15 shots

    Its and more often than not, comes from people with no direct experience or bought a knackered shot out rifle.

    Driven at sensible speeds you will get alot of shots out of a barrel - Probably more in fact than a 204 which uses between 4 - 8 grains of propellent more per shot.

    A friend of mine has over 2500 round out of his Shillen barrel and it is still bug holing.


    One last point - I have had a Remmy LVSF and I too struggled for accuracy , untill I removed the two "Pips" in the H&S stock that touch the barrel - as Rich said - try pushing the 25 grn Vmax toward 4K


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    Sako A1, 17 Rem, perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jordang View Post
    Sako A1, 17 Rem, perfect.
    Glad to hear 17's are being enjoyed. I've had 17 FB in std rem sps 26" barrel and settled on 25 gn vmax with 16.3 of H4195 and loves it. Just considering which mod to get, not that it is too noisy anyway but some of my land is sensitive, any recommendations?
    Normally groups a least clover leafs at range at 100, but have had issues with variable case quality and very sensitive to neck tension I found the usual 0.002" of tension a little tight shaving bullet on insertion so tried .001 and .0015 with different formers on my redding dies and not yet come to any firm conclusions. What has worked for you guys?
    Regards Optomist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optomist View Post
    Glad to hear 17's are being enjoyed. I've had 17 FB in std rem sps 26" barrel and settled on 25 gn vmax with 16.3 of H4195 and loves it. Just considering which mod to get, not that it is too noisy anyway but some of my land is sensitive, any recommendations?
    Normally groups a least clover leafs at range at 100, but have had issues with variable case quality and very sensitive to neck tension I found the usual 0.002" of tension a little tight shaving bullet on insertion so tried .001 and .0015 with different formers on my redding dies and not yet come to any firm conclusions. What has worked for you guys?
    Regards Optomist
    Dave Mercer made me one for mine and it is quiter than my HMR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optomist View Post
    ... I found the usual 0.002" of tension a little tight shaving bullet on insertion so tried .001 and .0015 with different formers on my redding dies and not yet come to any firm conclusions. What has worked for you guys?
    Regards Optomist
    Try a VLD chamfer tool then polish the neck with 0000 steel wool in a spinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optomist View Post
    Glad to hear 17's are being enjoyed. I've had 17 FB in std rem sps 26" barrel and settled on 25 gn vmax with 16.3 of H4195 and loves it. Just considering which mod to get, not that it is too noisy anyway but some of my land is sensitive, any recommendations?
    Normally groups a least clover leafs at range at 100, but have had issues with variable case quality and very sensitive to neck tension I found the usual 0.002" of tension a little tight shaving bullet on insertion so tried .001 and .0015 with different formers on my redding dies and not yet come to any firm conclusions. What has worked for you guys?
    Regards Optomist
    Dave Mercer (DM80) mod is perfect for the 17's as they are light, cal specific and very effective. As mentioned above mine is hardly any louder than an HMR.
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    Agree with above - DM80 was noticably quieter than my CQB on the 17 rem.

    Dave is a top bloke too

    ATB
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    17 rem

    Quote Originally Posted by jamie g View Post
    Dont confuse the 17 rem and 17 hmr there completely different beasts
    Aaah there in lies my confusion, thanks for clearing that up for me cheers , Andy

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