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    Never used Vihtavuori but i always found 10 grns of Unique worked well with a 405 grn bullet in both the Ruger number 1
    and a Pedersoli rolling block. Doesn't sound much powder but plenty especially in the light Ruger. Keep us upto date with
    how you get on. Tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim56 View Post
    Never used Vihtavuori but i always found 10 grns of Unique worked well with a 405 grn bullet in both the Ruger number 1
    and a Pedersoli rolling block. Doesn't sound much powder but plenty especially in the light Ruger. Keep us upto date with
    how you get on. Tim
    I use the same load for the same bullet weight in a Winchester High Wall - same deal. Nice and accurate out to 100m and still satisfying to shoot, too. I use a wisp of REAL kapok over the charge, though, NOT a frawk material of any kind.

    Smells like burning an old cuddly toy [don't ask how i know].

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    Thanks for the replies guys. I load 14.5 grains of Unique as my indoor plinking load for .45-70, I'm looking for a replacement powder for full power loads. I've done up to 57 grains of 4198 which I use out to 600m. It's quite annoying that I'm having to start from scratch again with most of my calibres. Thanks EU!

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreg View Post
    Thanks for the replies guys. I load 14.5 grains of Unique as my indoor plinking load for .45-70, I'm looking for a replacement powder for full power loads. I've done up to 57 grains of 4198 which I use out to 600m. It's quite annoying that I'm having to start from scratch again with most of my calibres. Thanks EU!

    Cheers
    Greg
    Have you looked at Reloder7? supposed to be very good with the 45-70
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    You don't tell us what gun you are shooting your reloads in - it really DOES matter, even with a lead bullet.

    I have a Uberti Winchester Model of 1885 High Wall - my load, out to 500m - is 32gr of IMR4198. That is with a 405gr lead flat-nose.

    Your 57gr load seems to me to be rather more than the recommended top load from the Hodgdon reloading manual, 26th Ed, page 479

    H4198 44gr

    'For modern rifles designed for high pressure loads only'

    Like the Ruger No1, for instance. Or the Marlin whatever it is, but not any kind of modern replication of an older design.

    tac
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennyc View Post
    Have you looked at Reloder7? supposed to be very good with the 45-70
    I've not looked at Reloader 7 but will have a look. Trying to find a Viht powder to be honest, moving most of my other calibres onto it.

    Quote Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
    You don't tell us what gun you are shooting your reloads in - it really DOES matter, even with a lead bullet.

    I have a Uberti Winchester Model of 1885 High Wall - my load, out to 500m - is 32gr of IMR4198. That is with a 405gr lead flat-nose.

    Your 57gr load seems to me to be rather more than the recommended top load from the Hodgdon reloading manual, 26th Ed, page 479

    H4198 44gr

    'For modern rifles designed for high pressure loads only'

    Like the Ruger No1, for instance. Or the Marlin whatever it is, but not any kind of modern replication of an older design.

    tac
    You are quite right, that was a typo on my part, the 57gr was of H335. I've gone up to 50gr of H4198. That's using 300gr jacketed soft points. Still below the max load according to Nosler. For 405gr Lead heads I use 40gr max of H4198.

    My rifle is a Browning made Winchester 1886, capable of handling the same loads as the Marlin 1895.

    I've found a table quoting that Viht N130 is an equivalent to 4198 so might look into that a bit further.

    Cheers
    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreg View Post
    I've not looked at Reloader 7 but will have a look. Trying to find a Viht powder to be honest, moving most of my other calibres onto it.

    You are quite right, that was a typo on my part, the 57gr was of H335. I've gone up to 50gr of H4198. That's using 300gr jacketed soft points. Still below the max load according to Nosler. For 405gr Lead heads I use 40gr max of H4198.

    My rifle is a Browning made Winchester 1886, capable of handling the same loads as the Marlin 1895.

    I've found a table quoting that Viht N130 is an equivalent to 4198 so might look into that a bit further.

    Cheers
    Greg
    'kay. Your 'Browning-made' 1886 is actually an SKB-Miroku-made rifle, same as mine over in OR, except that mine is in 30-06. I have the half-octagon/half-round barrel, with 'Diana Grade #1' detailing. Second-hand, from a guy who was getting the ever-living snot kicked out of him by it. He was 5' 1" and built like an elf, and may have weighed in at 90# wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennyc View Post
    Have you looked at Reloder7? supposed to be very good with the 45-70
    I think Reload Swiss do an equivalent Kenny. Apparently their process of controlled steeping of the kernels in nitro makes the burn much less spikey but with good velocity. Certainly with RS52 we pushed the hell out of the loads.
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