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    Quote Originally Posted by warbucks View Post
    Well yes in general this is correct, but it doesn't always work like this.
    I shot 265 foxes with the 223 last year, what's left are the one's that's survived or new one's moving in, of the 30 foxes that ive shot so far this year only two have come in to the remote caller, so its either bait-n-wait, or walking them down.
    A typical night foxing for me is 30 miles to get there, 40-50 miles driving round several permission from 9pm -4am, and 30 mile back home, these remaining foxes are wise, when a vehicle stops they are looking in that direction, some times the I/R from the n/v is enough for the to run, in general they are operating at the end of the fields the furthest from the only access road, this can be 500-600 yds, some times i can walk them down, some times they leg it, then at the moment i haven't got a range finder that works in the dark, last week i walked a fox down to what i thought was around 200 yds i got it wrong and the shot went low, it was probably further than 240 yds?, last thursday night went out with "optima silk " off here, spotted a heat source with his thermal coming out of the woods, it was a fox, 323 yds, started to walk it down using a line of tree's so it din't see us, re checked it when we had walked around 120 yds, it had gone, IMO we hadn't done anything wrong, it just didn't spend much time in the field before it moved on--------that foxing for you.

    I'm not saying the 223 isnt a good foxing gun, what i am saying is if i didn't already have this, knowing what i know now, i would have gone for the 22-250 or 243 as both of these's will give another 50-60 yd pbr over the 223 and in the 243's case have around the same knock down power at 250 yds, as the 223 has at 100 yds and less effected by wind.

    Dave (warbucks)
    how about invest in a rangefinder that works at night? I have a NV spotter with built in ranging, and Boydy47 has one that clips to the scope and also can be used in pitch black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kennyc View Post
    how about invest in a rangefinder that works at night? I have a NV spotter with built in ranging, and Boydy47 has one that clips to the scope and also can be used in pitch black.
    Yes mate has one of "Splatty's" on his new 243, used in conjunction with his Drone Pro, they are good.

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    I am not a fan of night vision optics as they have no place in hunting animals IMHO and does not teach you any fieldcraft - there we are that will have upset a few.....



    I doubt very much it will upset anyone on here, but it rather shows your ignorance on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal1 View Post
    I am not a fan of night vision optics as they have no place in hunting animals IMHO and does not teach you any fieldcraft - there we are that will have upset a few.....



    I doubt very much it will upset anyone on here, but it rather shows your ignorance on the matter.
    Well if your farmer, land owners are happy with this, well that's fine.

    I Also have certain permissions that the vermin is under control and just need keeping that way with the odd one or two shot,however i have some permissions where rats, rabbits and foxes need sorting as they are causing money problems to the farmer/land owners, seen as rats, rabbits and foxes come out mainly in the dark, this is the best time to control them IMO, best method iv'e found so far is n/v and or thermal to spot with------each to their own.

    Dave (warbucks)
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbucks View Post
    Well if your farmer, land owners are happy with this, well that's fine.

    I Also have certain permissions that the vermin is under control and just need keeping that way with the odd one or two shot,however i have some permissions where rats, rabbits and foxes need sorting as they are causing money problems to the farmer/land owners, seen as rats, rabbits and foxes come out mainly in the dark, this is the best time to control them IMO, best method iv'e found so far is n/v and or thermal to spot with------each to their own.

    Dave (warbucks)
    Heathen!

    Personally I think if you can't get close enough to touch the quarry with the end of your barrel in broad daylight with the wind up your arse, you simply have no business shooting live quarry in the first place!
    Thanks for looking

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    That's nice

    I think if you need to get that close forget the rifle and put a good knife between your teeth and get in there Bare arse Ghouls style hah haha ha Adrian

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