Why I am Beginning To Change My Mind About Sub12 Hunting

[bighit]

Even if you were a world champion it would only be luck for a humaine quick kill because animals move, so shot placement is unreliable.

And that would be the same if you used a higher powered airgun or powder burner .

so are you saying hunting with ALL firearms should be banned ?

Or should we do as Murphy says and use a .50bmg to shoot animals as even if you hit its eyelash it will still blow it to pieces

[rhyslightnin]

And that would be the same if you used a higher powered airgun or powder burner .

so are you saying hunting with ALL firearms should be banned ?

Or should we do as Murphy says and use a .50bmg to shoot animals as even if you hit its eyelash it will still blow it to pieces

The only way to be sure is landmines I reckon

[bighit]

The only way to be sure is landmines I reckon

already banned for that reason alone I hear. It leaves nothing to sell to the butchers .

[Muskett]

As hunters we should all try to be good sportsmen and do our very best to be as humane as possible. But we must recognise it is not a perfect science. Respect your quarry.
Let us also remember that the Natural World is by far the cruelest of them all. Even human industrialisation can't match it. Most humans haven't any clue what is done on their behalf to provide for their needs and wants. At least a good sportsman recognises the magnitude and responsibility of what they are doing, and what they are doing is quite natural and normal and nothing we haven't been doing from the very beginning.

[Shed tuner]

And that would be the same if you used a higher powered airgun or powder burner .

so are you saying hunting with ALL firearms should be banned ?

Well, not really.

The movement required to make a 12 Fp airgun pellet miss the brain is miniscule - 8-10mm ?
The movement required to miss a heart/lung shot with a .22 RF or 30 FP airgun is more like an inch.
The heart/lung target area is much larger, but is only really an option when you have more power.

This is what I found when I hunted with FAC air and RF anyways - it probably only extended my range from sub 12 40 yards to FAC 55 yards - but it meant I didnt need to aim for the tiny brain of my quary for every shot.

Now the HMR allowed much longer ranges, but was just too noisy for someone used to silencer air or .22 subs.

[Barryg]

And that would be the same if you used a higher powered airgun or powder burner .

so are you saying hunting with ALL firearms should be banned ?

Lets not forget in some countries you can only hunt with real firearms by law. Power wins over accuracy most of the time

And Muskett's comment that the Natural World is by far the cruelest of them all is no excuse for us to forget two wrongs don't make a right, the natural world doesn't have (100 billion neurons in a head) like us that help us to decide if 12 ft/lbs is humane to hunt with LOL