beginners guide to bp part two... calibre??

[lilguy43uk]

It now transpires that the shooter that this issue refers to was new to black powder. Instead of reading the menu before starting to cook he jumped in with both feet and loaded with Accurate No.5 for God's sake. A double based smokeless powder.

Apparently, somewhere on the label it said "universal" so he thought it was all right to use it.

My only question would be "How did he get away so lightly?"

More information will follow as I get it.

[harricook]

Wow !

I'm running 9.4gn of Accurate No 5 in a 357 magnum case for CF target shooting.

Now assuming he loaded 20 to 25gn in his BP pistol - that must have been SOME bang !

Thanks for the info - any pics would make a useful teaching tool too !

All the best

Roy

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[lilguy43uk]

Wow !

I'm running 9.4gn of Accurate No 5 in a 357 magnum case for CF target shooting.

Now assuming he loaded 20 to 25gn in his BP pistol - that must have been SOME bang !

Thanks for the info - any pics would make a useful teaching tool too !

All the best

Roy

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Doing my best for pictures Roy but the H&S gnomes still have the gun.

[tacfoley]

Doing my best for pictures Roy but the H&S gnomes still have the gun.

Thanks for the update - would I be right in assuming that the fu%%wit shooter is ok, inspite of his complete and utter stupidity?

EVERY modern replica black powder arm is I have ever seen is clearly stamped 'FOR BLACK POWDER ONLY'. How can somebody get it so wrong?

If you e-mail me, I have a picture of a similar model that was blown up with a nitro load instead of BP.

It might be a good pic to use as a sticky, too, to warn other smart-asses about ignoring basic instructions.

tac

[lilguy43uk]

Thanks for the update - would I be right in assuming that the fu%%wit shooter is ok, inspite of his complete and utter stupidity?

EVERY modern replica black powder arm is I have ever seen is clearly stamped 'FOR BLACK POWDER ONLY'. How can somebody get it so wrong?

If you e-mail me, I have a picture of a similar model that was blown up with a nitro load instead of BP.

It might be a good pic to use as a sticky, too, to warn other smart-asses about ignoring basic instructions.

tac

The only injury (apart from the gun, and a severe case of Montzuma's revenge) was to someone standing behind him who received a slight cut to her forehead. The worst damage was reserved for the sidewalls (heavy gauge plywood) of the booth he was shooting from. On the right side it punched a hole straight through whilst the left side had an indentation in it.

We already have one example of carelessness and we don't want any more.

[harricook]

The only injury (apart from the gun, and a severe case of Montzuma's revenge) was to someone standing behind him who received a slight cut to her forehead. The worst damage was reserved for the sidewalls (heavy gauge plywood) of the booth he was shooting from. On the right side it punched a hole straight through whilst the left side had an indentation in it.

We already have one example of carelessness and we don't want any more.

Can you imaging if it had been on the Melville @ Bisley - all that separates the shooting points is a bit of green garden mesh !
The whole range would have got a bit of shrapnell !

Roy

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[northern35s]

It now transpires that the shooter that this issue refers to was new to black powder. Instead of reading the menu before starting to cook he jumped in with both feet and loaded with Accurate No.5 for God's sake. A double based smokeless powder.

Apparently, somewhere on the label it said "universal" so he thought it was all right to use it.

My only question would be "How did he get away so lightly?"

More information will follow as I get it.

I can't find my 'Oh dear God NO' smilie so I'll have to use How did the chap ever get into the sport without someone, somewher, saying NEVER stick anything else other than black powder in the gun.

[lilguy43uk]

I can't find my 'Oh dear God NO' smilie so I'll have to use How did the chap ever get into the sport without someone, somewher, saying NEVER stick anything else other than black powder in the gun.

He jumped in without trying to learn. This is being addressed at the club at the moment. ALL muzzle loader shooters will have to undergo a training course prior to being allowed on the range.

While this is a right royal pain in the 'arris I can quite see why it's being done and will support the move. Probably it's motivated by a combination of pressures from H&E and the range insurers.

It's certainly made me re-examine the procedures that I follow when shooting.

[tacfoley]

Read why I take loading and reloading about as seriously as it is possible to imagine -

In 1983 I was standing in the neighbouring shooting bay when less than ten feet away from me, a young man was sitting on the ground, propped up agains the wall between us, bleeding to death from injuries he had suffered when his friend's revolver blew up as he stood beside him shooting another handgun.

Using borrowed and unfamiliar reloading gear, his pal had hand-loaded 158gr JHP bullets into .38 Special cases for his dad's old Military Police-issue WW2 Colt.

But with a load that was three times a good load for a .357Mag - 24.6gr of Unique...

The gun let go at the third shot, with a piece of the cylinder passing through the victim's neck and other fragments into his face and eyes - had he survived he would have been blind anyhow.

We kept him alive long enough for him to die as we unloaded him in my arms at the nearby ER unit - as most folks know, it's very hard to put a tourniquet on a person's neck.

tac