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    Quote Originally Posted by peddy View Post
    We have all had a nitemare gun to strip due to failure or fettling attempts. But after years of stripping guns I was handed a Walther cp88 by a mate that wouldn't fire, with limited help online I decided to have a go. After several hours and a lot of swearing I've finally got it working again, so many springs and moving parts that sprang out when pulling apart, what I complete bastard of a gun. What's yours?
    Funnily enough it was a Walther CP88 for me too! The hammer spring had broken on this one so I took it to Richard Spencer at Target Technics who wouldn't touch it and told me to send it to the manufacturer, specifically warning me not to try it myself. Well, I did anyway and managed to do the job, but like you say they're like a pocket watch inside!

    Cheers
    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreg View Post
    Funnily enough it was a Walther CP88 for me too! The hammer spring had broken on this one so I took it to Richard Spencer at Target Technics who wouldn't touch it and told me to send it to the manufacturer, specifically warning me not to try it myself. Well, I did anyway and managed to do the job, but like you say they're like a pocket watch inside!

    Cheers
    Greg
    I feel better that Richard wouldn't touch one, you are right it did resemble a watch movement , sure I counted 8 springs. How the hell do they make these on an assembly line???!!

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    Original 35 Super

    The only one I had to go to someone with, with the 'bag of bits'
    Looking for TO-6 Trigger unit unmessed with or T0-6 kit for 34

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCPShooter View Post
    Original 35 Super

    The only one I had to go to someone with, with the 'bag of bits'
    That happened to me too. And I blamed the silly beggar who took it to bits, lost interest and stuck it in the corner for two years in a carrier bag. I really lost my tag with him
    but he got it sorted in the end (this was pre internet days).
    Yes I've not made same mistake second time.
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    air gun.brockock safari. gun. the bloody sten. field fixed my bum. and the sterling.
    the only thing i can find wrong is the nut on the steering wheel.

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    hardest

    by far its the bsa lightening, that piston is ridiculous and the scope rail to get off.

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    I really struggled with the theoben/webley trigger... a real pain in the bum!
    Also the old BSA Mercury is quite tricky if you are trying to cram a big square spring in and aren't using a spring compressor and trigger block holder!
    I had a jam in my Remington 1100 that was a pain to fix.. lots of fiddly little components inside a metal box! In comparison I've also got a Browning auto 5 which is a doddle!
    I've got an Original 75 coming up soon which I'm actually looking forward to. I've been doing my research and speaking to folks that have worked on the Giss guns.. easy peasy lemon squeezy!

    Ps.. here's the link to the theoben trigger walkthrough
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byi...w?usp=drivesdk
    Last edited by thisisdonald; 01-10-2018 at 05:38 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreg View Post
    Funnily enough it was a Walther CP88 for me too! The hammer spring had broken on this one so I took it to Richard Spencer at Target Technics who wouldn't touch it and told me to send it to the manufacturer, specifically warning me not to try it myself. Well, I did anyway and managed to do the job, but like you say they're like a pocket watch inside!

    Cheers
    Greg
    Not rifle related but when you said pocket watch it reminded me of the time I took the cap off the top of one of the injectors in my fiat van whilst trying to fix a fault with it... Holly crap I've never shrunk in confidence so fast . As you say.. billions of really small parts and as Tinbum puts it, there's always "f*** it" spring that pings off with atleast one or more other tiny parts which you never had chance to see how they fitted. The engineer who spent a day and eventually fixed it said very politely to me "don't do that again Rhys will you"
    Rhys
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    Interestingly I recently did a CP88 and had no problems at all.

    The issue that gave me most thought on what was wrong/caused it: a FWB300 with the sidelever stuck open. Eventually tracked it down to a worn ratchet bar.
    Item I had to have lunch and ponder over: An early Air Arms trigger unit from a sidelever. The first time I did it several years prior to this time, I had no problems at all but on this occasion I just got it wrong. Got it right eventually.
    A CO2 pistol from auction (can't remember model) ... stripped, corrected a seal and rebuilt as it had come apart, but it would not work. Eventually puzzled out that 'a person' had taken it apart before me and re-assembled it incorrectly. Ten minutes later all was well.

    There were others that took time but were eventually sorted.
    Cheers, Phil

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    Stripping them never seems to be an issue for me; Reassembly sometimes is though!
    Pistol & Rifle Shooting in the Highlands with Strathpeffer Rifle & Pistol Club. <StrathRPC at yahoo.com> or google it.
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    Not a gun but the magazine for a Kral NP02 Puncher.

    I dropped mine and dislodged the tension spring. Despite there only being FIVE parts it took me (and a couple of other club members) nearly 30 minutes to get it working again. (I know the secret now. )

    I was once told to strip Daystate magazines in a plastic bag.

    I nearly suffocated.

    ATB
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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Not a gun but the magazine for a Kral NP02 Puncher.

    I dropped mine and dislodged the tension spring. Despite there only being FIVE parts it took me (and a couple of other club members) nearly 30 minutes to get it working again. (I know the secret now. )

    I was once told to strip Daystate magazines in a plastic bag.

    I nearly suffocated.

    ATB
    Ian
    That says more about our club members than it goes the magazine!😉
    J.
    ok, I admit it, I've got a problem.
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    A CP88/92fs strip-down & reassembly DVD from T. R. Robb is available on e**y for less than £5.....or it was when I bought mine. I've watched it and it looks fairly straightforward to follow. £5 well-spent if you need to strip one.

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