scamma on guntrader

[TenMetrePeter]

Paypal are not a bank, they are merely a payment and receipt service, for which you pay, through the nose I might add.

E8ay and Paypal are private companies and if they do not like air rifles they can choose to have nothing to do with them.

Using your logic Tescos should be made to sell air guns as airguns are legal and Tescos is a sales outlet....

LOL I wasnt trying to state the law, just proffering my opinion, that if you open up as an auction house (not a shop) you should not be able to ban legal goods.

Even as an escrow service PayPal should not IN MY OPINION ban payment for legal goods that dont require a certificate or prescription to own.

[secretagentmole]

LOL I wasnt trying to state the law, just proffering my opinion, that if you open up as an auction house (not a shop) you should not be able to ban legal goods.

Even as an escrow service PayPal should not IN MY OPINION ban payment for legal goods that dont require a certificate or prescription to own.

If you sell rifles as an auction you do have to be registered as an RFD you know....

http://www.horners.co.uk/registered-firearms-dealers/

[rovercoupe]

If you sell rifles as an auction you do have to be registered as an RFD you know....

http://www.horners.co.uk/registered-firearms-dealers/

So could be in the poo as we have all seen air rifles being sold without being taken off and I even reported a deactivated shotgun being sold which they did nothing about.

anyone fancy reporting them.......

[Rapidnick]

'Opinions' on this subject are ten a penny. Companies can and do restrict the uses to which their service may be used and that can most definitely cover 'legal' matters with certain important exceptions such as racism, sexism etc.
Not wanting to stray too far on this, paypal as a business intrigues me. It is true that its terms and conditions exclude shooting related matters- as does its former owner the auction site that dare not speak its name. And yet shooting related items are freely offered on there for auction and buy it now. In addition paypal is an approved (almost a 'compulsory' certainly a 'default') method of payment for these items. Also paypal is used regularly by businesses that are quite clearly shooting related and who make no effort at all to disguise the true nature of their trade. Are they completely mad??
I'm genuinely confused here. Does anyone on here have PERSONAL experience of account closure? By personal I mean to THEM not to a mate or as a result of a story. I'd really like to know.

[secretagentmole]

'Opinions' on this subject are ten a penny. Companies can and do restrict the uses to which their service may be used and that can most definitely cover 'legal' matters with certain important exceptions such as racism, sexism etc.
Not wanting to stray too far on this, paypal as a business intrigues me. It is true that its terms and conditions exclude shooting related matters- as does its former owner the auction site that dare not speak its name. And yet shooting related items are freely offered on there for auction and buy it now. In addition paypal is an approved (almost a 'compulsory' certainly a 'default') method of payment for these items. Also paypal is used regularly by businesses that are quite clearly shooting related and who make no effort at all to disguise the true nature of their trade. Are they completely mad??
I'm genuinely confused here. Does anyone on here have PERSONAL experience of account closure? By personal I mean to THEM not to a mate or as a result of a story. I'd really like to know.

Ours was frozen for a few weeks when we bought an air rifle and put it in the description line....

[harvey_s]

Can't see how Paypal have leg to stand on to refuse to pay compensation when they offer themselves as a payment option to sellers on Freeads....

[nikonman]

It isn't always the case that if you express a dislike for accepting PayPal as a payment option, that you are a 'scammer'.

I've had an e**y account for over 14 years now and always refused offering PayPal as an option for buyers until e**y made it a condition if you wanted to continue to sell anything. Even now, I refuse to have PayPal linked to my bank account, so if I sell anything on e**y and the buyer pays with PayPal, I'm limited to those funds 'resting' in my PayPal account. Doesn't bother me that much for smaller amounts as I'll just utilise them for e**y purchases, but for anything over £50 or so that isn't an e**y transaction, I'll always ask that the buyer pays me either via bank transfer or cash-on-collection. It's nothing to do with trying to con anyone or deprive them of their rights.

Mind you, in PayPal's defence, I've never had a problem with them and they've always been quick to refund anything that's gone awry.

[angrybear]

Can't see how Paypal have leg to stand on to refuse to pay compensation when they offer themselves as a payment option to sellers on Freeads....

Then frankly you must be a bit dim they offer the service to the site not personally to each individual transaction

ANY private company can set any legal terms they wish, it is the users responsibility to ensure that they comply with those terms, and if the user breaches those terms tough !
same as you can refuse to accept a particular method of payment if you wish to, or if selling something you can chose who you sell to.

It's called freedom of choice and if you chose to use it, then by doing so, you agree to abide by their terms.