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    Quote Originally Posted by zooma View Post
    The new scoring system will make life easier for the scorer and easier for everyone to check the scores.

    I don't expect to see any significant changes in any of the scores due to this change, but I do expect it to be easier to work with and easier to check.

    If you are getting an HW45 the barn door will come in handy - but is unlikely to suffer too much damage

    Joining the GAMO Gang is the best thing you could have done to improve your MPL scores, and making the cards easier to score won't make any difference to you or the Centres abilty to maximise the MPL rules.
    What may suffer some collateral damage is our central heating boiler, it`s fairly close to the bell target and pellet catcher, shooting the Gamo, FWB, 6M and the 300s not a problem, but a 45 may mean a bit of Chobham Armour having to be fitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gordon View Post
    What may suffer some collateral damage is our central heating boiler, it`s fairly close to the bell target and pellet catcher, shooting the Gamo, FWB, 6M and the 300s not a problem, but a 45 may mean a bit of Chobham Armour having to be fitted.
    Try throwing the HW45 at the barn door - you will have more chance of hitting it and saving your boiler !
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooma View Post
    Try throwing the HW45 at the barn door - you will have more chance of hitting it and saving your boiler !
    Probably not because i throw left handed ,no ! i forget the HW has ambi grips so i may stand a chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by gordon View Post
    Probably not because i throw left handed ,no ! i forget the HW has ambi grips so i may stand a chance
    Practise throwing your HW45 from the Humber Bridge - make sure you are about half way across and there is no shipping abut and it will be the best it will ever perform and give you something nice to remember about about it as it hits the water - probably the only thing it will ever hit that was actually intended!
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    Making the scoring system the same, i.e. standard upward scoring, makes a lot of sense, but we need to make sure that some of the match pistols don't become fly away winners.

    I suppose one way would be to handicap guns/certain power sources, like +1 per card for a springer, -1 for PCP, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.m.h View Post
    Making the scoring system the same, i.e. standard upward scoring, makes a lot of sense, but we need to make sure that some of the match pistols don't become fly away winners.

    I suppose one way would be to handicap guns/certain power sources, like +1 per card for a springer, -1 for PCP, etc.

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    Just to re-cap:- As from 1st January 2013.

    All MPL cards are scored UP in the normal way.

    Kickers get a +4 point bonus per card.

    There is no chance whatsoever of the match pistols running away with it - that's what the MPL is all about.

    As for PCP pistols - check the MPL rules - they have always been banned and are stil banned.

    MPL stands for Muscle Power League - all energy needed to propel any MPL pistol has to come from the human muscles - not a pre-charged cylinder of any sort.

    All pistols used are either spring powered or SSP - both need Muscle Power to cock them - anything other then this is banned from the MPL.
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    Well spotted Bob I did, in fact, mean SSP, as I am aware PCPs are not allowed.

    Bit harsh, however! just me typing faster than I pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zooma View Post
    Practise throwing your HW45 from the Humber Bridge - make sure you are about half way across and there is no shipping abut and it will be the best it will ever perform and give you something nice to remember about about it as it hits the water - probably the only thing it will ever hit that was actually intended!
    Iv`e not got it yet Bob i`m only surmising , any how i can`t practice chucking it off the Humber Bridge , unless it`s on elastic or is that a different method of dry firing ? AND i`m not driving all the way to the Humber Bridge, with the cost of fuel, i could buy a pcp with it.

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    I think we have wandered a bit off theme with this thread so we had better behave

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    Anything that makes the scoring easier gets my vote! After years of Inward scoring this Outward business does my little head in.
    So, Inward it is for EVERYONE plus 4 points per card for 'boingers'. If they dont mark on their card what pistol they used (and witness and their name) their score is invalid anyway !!!!!!

    Now. How am I going to explain to some of the Rivi pistol shooters what 'explain' means when some dont even know what pistol they are using?

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    Thumbs up MPL proposed scoring for 2012

    This is not my original thread as my first reply which should have been at 1 pm today some how has got lost amongst the network and hopefully will be retrieved (watch this space).

    Anyway, as the RMTC official or unofficial scorer, I would like to put in my two penneth and give Bob a big thumbs up! It's difficult enough trying to sus out who are using kickers and who are not especially when the culprits do not let you know. Also as I score up in other leagues trying to remember to score down and/or score up can sometimes tax even my brain. So this is a big yes for me and would also like to point out that people with kickers get 4 points added on per card giving them a total if my maths is correct of plus 16 points onto their overall score. Come on lads surely that's enough!

    So for me Bob you get my vote and it is a yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melegbait View Post
    This is not my original thread as my first reply which should have been at 1 pm today some how has got lost amongst the network and hopefully will be retrieved (watch this space).

    Anyway, as the RMTC official or unofficial scorer, I would like to put in my two penneth and give Bob a big thumbs up! It's difficult enough trying to sus out who are using kickers and who are not especially when the culprits do not let you know. Also as I score up in other leagues trying to remember to score down and/or score up can sometimes tax even my brain. So this is a big yes for me and would also like to point out that people with kickers get 4 points added on per card giving them a total if my maths is correct of plus 16 points onto their overall score. Come on lads surely that's enough!

    So for me Bob you get my vote and it is a yes.
    I thought that the cards had to be marked with the pistol used, seems like some of the Rossendale's cards should not have been scored. As for rule changes should you not consult a few Rivi members first! I for one think that 4 points per card, for a springer, is excessive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocity View Post
    I thought that the cards had to be marked with the pistol used, seems like some of the Rossendale's cards should not have been scored. As for rule changes should you not consult a few Rivi members first! I for one think that 4 points per card, for a springer, is excessive.
    You do know at the moment it's possible to get 6 extra points per card with a springer? upwards scoring plus 1 point per card for a springer under 2012 rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karandras View Post
    You do know at the moment it's possible to get 6 extra points per card with a springer? upwards scoring plus 1 point per card for a springer under 2012 rules.
    You said it yourself there though"it's possible"not a given,a lot of the cards I have scored at Rivi's have gained only 2/3 points
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    Perhaps a number of trials are in order.

    Give some shooters, selected or chosen at random, a few cards each with various guns, and and see what the results are.

    I know we have had a look at some downwards scoring cards, and and have seen what they would score upwards scoring, but have these same shooters shot a few rounds with a springer to see how much, if any, they are disadvantaged by?

    I am sure such an exercise will show a way forward.

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