Reloading advise for 58g v-max in 243

[Elliott]

Not out of .243 win it won't, looking at nosler load data you'll top out at around 3200 fps, with 200 yard zero and 1.5" bore to sightline you are knocking on 6" drop at 300 yards....

Compare that to a 22-250 running 53gr v-max or .243 running 55 gr Nosler varmint at 3900 fps and they are only just over 4.24".

Either of the above will give you a point and shoot load for a 4" kill zone (generous for a small vixen) if zeroed at 250 yards . provided you can read the wind well, in the dark, as an 8 mph wind at 90 degrees reduces the point and shoot range to about 235 yards! After that you aim bang on and you're out of your 4" kill zone, by 300 yards you're drift is over 6" on a bib shot that's a miss.

110 gr v-max out of a .308 at 3350 fps beats them all!

Or Dave if you really want a lazer have a short throated 6.5-284 built and run 100 gr A-max / ELD match at 3450 fps, make friends with the smith though as you'll need a new barrel every 7-800 rds!!

In my experience, at 300+ yards the wind is the biggest factor. Gravity is constant, wind is variable.

2" drop difference at 300 yards between 55gr Nosler and 87gr V-Max isn't even worth considering. I'm betting there will be more than 2" difference in wind drift

[warbucks]

In my experience, at 300+ yards the wind is the biggest factor. Gravity is constant, wind is variable.

2" drop difference at 300 yards between 55gr Nosler and 87gr V-Max isn't even worth considering. I'm betting there will be more than 2" difference in wind drift

I understand where your coming from Elliott, but im on the line of thought's by Temo, and Boydy, fast n flat, i am talking about all these's shots with n/v, don't really want to be trying to work out hold over, if on the odd occasion the fox is around 300 ish yds and i cannot got the range down then it a guess allowance for wind, or if conditions are just too bad the shot will be left ---------its the same line of idea as the 22-250 with 50g bullets ie fast n flat ---------if the idea doesn't work after a good trial period, at least with 243 i have the option to use heavier bullets unlike the 22-250?

Dave (warbucks)

[223AI]

I understand where your coming from Elliott, but im on the line of thought's by Temo, and Boydy, fast n flat, i am talking about all these's shots with n/v, don't really want to be trying to work out hold over, if on the odd occasion the fox is around 300 ish yds and i cannot got the range down then it a guess allowance for wind, or if conditions are just too bad the shot will be left ---------its the same line of idea as the 22-250 with 50g bullets ie fast n flat ---------if the idea doesn't work after a good trial period, at least with 243 i have the option to use heavier bullets unlike the 22-250?

Dave (warbucks)

At least if you have a 'flat' round you only have one variable to think about.....

22-250 will give you the option for heavy bullets if you have a fast twist rifle built, but it won't give you any benefit over a .243 with heavier bullets in a factory rifle.

[loiner1965]

I understand where your coming from Elliott, but im on the line of thought's by Temo, and Boydy, fast n flat, i am talking about all these's shots with n/v, don't really want to be trying to work out hold over, if on the odd occasion the fox is around 300 ish yds and i cannot got the range down then it a guess allowance for wind, or if conditions are just too bad the shot will be left ---------its the same line of idea as the 22-250 with 50g bullets ie fast n flat ---------if the idea doesn't work after a good trial period, at least with 243 i have the option to use heavier bullets unlike the 22-250?

Dave (warbucks)

pm rick (nightstalker) as i sure he as loads for 22.250 and possibly .243 as well.
Knowing rick as i do they will be super accurate and tested 100%.

[Ranyhyn]

I use Lovex, because that's what my man has a pretty regular supply of, and have managed minute of fart groupings with my .243 using SO60, SO62 and SO71. SO60 with 55 sierras were trundling out at 3820 fps.

[223AI]

In my experience, at 300+ yards the wind is the biggest factor. Gravity is constant, wind is variable.

2" drop difference at 300 yards between 55gr Nosler and 87gr V-Max isn't even worth considering. I'm betting there will be more than 2" difference in wind drift

You lost the bet, 10 mph at right angle the 55 gr NBT drifts 7.94" at 300, 87 v-max 6.69" so only 1.3". It is a fair point though and also the one I was trying to make with the rest of my post!

[Elliott]

You lost the bet, 10 mph at right angle the 55 gr NBT drifts 7.94" at 300, 87 v-max 6.69" so only 1.3". It is a fair point though and also the one I was trying to make with the rest of my post!

Apologies, didn't mean it to come across that way.

That is surprising! I'll now climb back into the hole from once I came

[ZAKDINGEL]

What works for some doesn't for others this is what I load for my .243 a 70grn Blizking bullet with 40grns of ramshot big game powder behind it as we no some guns like different bullets weights the Op might be better waiting until he gets a gun and try it first to make sure it will shoot that weight of bullet I have been down that same route buying boxes of bullets before I had tried them allot of time and powder used good fun but very frustrating at times

[223AI]

Apologies, didn't mean it to come across that way.

That is surprising! I'll now climb back into the hole from once I came

you didn't come across any way buddy!!

Point is they'll all drift and the only way to cut that down and still have an explosive bullet is to run silly fast, 60 gr+ of powder barrel burners, reading wind in daylight is hard enough with all the visual clues, at night its harder - just like ranging!

[Mini Magnum]

Using 43.5gr N140 and 58 vmax , I'm getting 1 hole groups at 100yds, very accurate in my Tikka.

[warbucks]

Using 43.5gr N140 and 58 vmax , I'm getting 1 hole groups at 100yds, very accurate in my Tikka.

Any idea roughly what speed they will be doing, or point blank range on a 4" kill zone, i am wanting about 300 yds if possible.

Dave (warbucks)

[Charlts]

RS60 works really well with lighter bullets, I got best accuracy with 55gr Varmaggeddons at 4130fps.

I believe Amir runs H4895 under his 55gr Nosler BT's.

[nicholiath]

I use 58 gn vmax in my .243 loaded with ramshot hunter powder. The 58 bullet is short for calibre with a healthy jump to the lands but I improved my results with a light crimp.

[sir-slots-alot]

I have used 58 grn Vmax and 55 grn SBK in several of the 243's I have had over the years.
Both of the above bullets are perfect for a flat shooting and expand violently upon impact..

I do something very similar now in my 6.5 Creedmore - I run a 95 grn Vmax at 3400 fps just for foxing (and the odd unlucky crow that gets within range).

I have used several powders such as Varget , H414 , N140 , and RL15 in the 243 with the lighter pills.
Most recently I used H380 under a 55 grn SBK which gave 4055 fps and a lot of dead foxes. Barrel life wasn't in issue as I bought the Tikka 595 as a doner rifle ... but found it was still amazingly accurate.. so decided to speed up the death of the barrel .

My pet loads were as follows - both of these would group in the 0.3 - 0.5 MOA

46.8 grn Varget - 55 grn SBK COL 2.650 - 3815 fps

44.8 grn N140 - 58 grn Vmax COL 2.680 - 3680 fps

Obviously work up any load safely.



Merry Christmas

Alan

[Ranyhyn]

Sierra soft point 100gr over 35.5gr Lovex SO62 (Accurate 4064)