My permission letters

[Lurchermiss]

I cant see any mention of being with the BASC, which I hope you are. I would definately mention this and that you are fully insured.

[Jackel]

I cant see any mention of being with the BASC, which I hope you are. I would definately mention this and that you are fully insured.

I have this in my letter for golf courses We are both members of the air rifle shooters association with a personnel liability of two million pounds

As most of the farmers know I'm not an idiot they are happy with the disclaimer saying if I am injured I'll not sue them getting the basc is just something I never got round to signing up for

[supersportg]

Thanks Jackel, this has saved me a lot of stress letters arn't my strong point
top gob

[mr_colt]

Excellent letter but; the disclaimer on the permission contract need to be specific about who it indemnifies (landowner or tenant, farm workers employed by them etc.)

Otherwise you are basicly indemnifing your own accident and injury insurance that probably comes with the air-rifle shooters association (I know my BASC insurance covers it.) Which would be a bind if u slipped and broke something major while out doing vermin control; you are stopping yourself claiming against your own insurance which can be a great help if the injury incapacitates you for several months and you can't work.

Also if you were injured as a result of some anti who has tresspassed onto the land to try and disrupt legal pest control then; neither the landowner or yourself would want you to sign away the right to sue the trespassing anti who has commited a criminal offence (aggrivated tresspass) from the moment he stepped onto the land with the intent to stop you shooting.

If a trespassing-anti assualted or otherwise caused me to become injured during my duties when I used to do pest-control; I would certainly want to get compensation for the bodily harm they may have inflicted on me.

Just my thoughts thats all.

mr_colt

P.S: Have you checked the "Airgun shooter assocation" will cover you for public liability while using firearms and shot guns?

[MattW]

These permission letters seem all well and good, but I'm afraid I know what my farmer would say if I presented him with a load of official looking documents to read and sign - it'd be something along the lines of "you've got to be **********ing joking!" followed by "you'd better look elsewhere for somewhere to shoot". If I also started telling my farmer about all the various types of pests and the damage they could cause, he'd be (rightly) insulted and tell me to p*ss off.

We have a very informal arrangement:

We've checked each other out face to face.
He's seen my insurance.
We have each other's phone numbers (including my mobile)
I phone before I go onto his land (so that he knows I'm there and not some trespasser he has to worry about)
I stay out of any fields he's working in.

We certainly haven't signed any agreements, waivers, disclaimers or other made-up legal sounding documents (has anyone actually had a lawyer cast his eye over one of these 'permission' letters - would they have any legal weight?).

It's an entirely different case if you are working in a professional capacity, but for us unpaid hobbyists, I'd think carefully before you alienate a hard won land owner with too much officialdom and 'teaching him to suck eggs'.

Just my humble opinion

Matt

[Jackel]

These permission letters seem all well and good, but I'm afraid I know what my farmer would say if I presented him with a load of official looking documents to read and sign - it'd be something along the lines of "you've got to be ******************ing joking!" followed by "you'd better look elsewhere for somewhere to shoot". If I also started telling my farmer about all the various types of pests and the damage they could cause, he'd be (rightly) insulted and tell me to p*ss off.

We have a very informal arrangement:

We've checked each other out face to face.
He's seen my insurance.
We have each other's phone numbers (including my mobile)
I phone before I go onto his land (so that he knows I'm there and not some trespasser he has to worry about)
I stay out of any fields he's working in.

We certainly haven't signed any agreements, waivers, disclaimers or other made-up legal sounding documents (has anyone actually had a lawyer cast his eye over one of these 'permission' letters - would they have any legal weight?).

It's an entirely different case if you are working in a professional capacity, but for us unpaid hobbyists, I'd think carefully before you alienate a hard won land owner with too much officialdom and 'teaching him to suck eggs'.

Just my humble opinion

Matt

Thanks for your opinion I shall file it in draw B1n

[MattW]

Thanks for your opinion I shall file it in draw B1n

File it whichever drawer you like, it'd be boring if we just had one point of view though wouldn't it?

cheers
Matt

[Dan D]

Thanks Jackal

I have been in the process of putting some letters together & none sound quite as good as yours... Infact they're rubbish.

Time to get copy & pasting.

Thanks mate.

Dan

[Renegade Master]

Jackel

Cheers for the permision slip, got it signed Sunday so now ready to do some recon before I begin hunting.

Cheers mate

Dan

[Sid66]

I Thank You Sir

[treeson]

Just wondering if my popular Shooting Permission Slips are too complicated and a simpler version was needed?

Happy Shooting
James

[Jackel]

Just wondering if my popular Shooting Permission Slips are too complicated and a simpler version was needed?

Happy Shooting
James

No Idea on that score bud I Put these up ages ago due to getting about 30 pm's a day asking for them

Its just a stock letter like yours(which is very good btw) for people to chop and change as they see fit

[Friday]

They both are very helpful treeson Shooting Permission Slips are great and easy to carry about in your back packet, and have all the relevant info on the slip. The Jackel permission letter is all good as it is getting harder to get shooting permission and any help is much appreciated.

Many thanks

Regards

Friday

[THE CHAIR ISVC]

Nice sound letter.BASC addition is a good idea I believe we may soon have to do "Risk Assessments" to cover our shooting ground????
Stay happy and keep Shooting.
The Chair

[froggy43215]

Thats fantastic! I think you have just saved me atleast two hours writing these. And I think there a bit better than the ones I could have cobbled together. Interestingly enough my last peice of shooting came about after puting a free pest control service on freecycle. I had a reply within a couple of hours from a nice lady who had a rabbit problem in her paddock.