the ripley elite is nothing like the ripley rifles such as the ar5s or xl9, the elite is a budget gun not hand built, and it shows in the quality, I`ve had ar5 and the ar5s models which are very well built, I had a nice looking elite but it was no comparison, it was no where near as accurate or as well made and the bolt used to move on firing, avoid the elite get an ar5s if you want a proper ripper. by all means try them out for yourself and you will see the difference!