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    Yes good idea.
    This can also be applied to .22 rimmy going from HV to Subs and different bullet coatings
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    Quote Originally Posted by manxteddy View Post
    Yes good idea.
    This can also be applied to .22 rimmy going from HV to Subs and different bullet coatings
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    That's what prompted me to post this..

    Yesterday I was using CCI subs which were grouping very well in my CZ452, with an air rifle shooter I had just introduced to my firearm club and he had become a probationary member. I then changed to Mini-Mags and the first ten shots were all over the place like a shotgun, shots 11 and 12 closed in on the P.O.A. and the next eight keyholed.

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    Had no problems yesterday swapping between JSB Heavy and Defiants - but both were lubed with the same oil

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    I have a similar problem.

    I normally use mozzies but when on a HFT course the AAs you find in the mud never perform the same.........especially the .22s.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid House View Post
    but when on a HFT course the AAs you find in the mud never perform the same.........especially the .22s.......
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    Some barrels are better than others and some are more sensitive than others.

    Some .22 rimfire match rifles have a cycle of cleanliness/dirtiness where the rifle performs at it's best after a certain number rounds have been put through the barrel. The accuracy can start to deteriorate and then it becomes neccessary to clean the barrel and start dirtying it up again until the accuracy returns.

    Some barrels are more sensitive to dirt than others (i understand that .17 HMR, .17 Mach2 & .17 Remington are quite sensitive to barrel fouling and the accuracy can deteriorate after 25-35 shots). I have read about new barrels being 'conditioned' when new by routine of firing and cleaning. This is designed to remove and roughness in the rifling.

    I've had one customer who was being driven nuts by an RWS Excalibre which was stupidly accurate when operating room clean but wouldn't group for toffee once it had the slightest spec of fouling. I suggested he should try lapping the barrel but i heard months later that he sold the rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoCrow View Post
    Some barrels are better than others and some are more sensitive than others.

    Some .22 rimfire match rifles have a cycle of cleanliness/dirtiness where the rifle performs at it's best after a certain number rounds have been put through the barrel. The accuracy can start to deteriorate and then it becomes neccessary to clean the barrel and start dirtying it up again until the accuracy returns.

    Some barrels are more sensitive to dirt than others (i understand that .17 HMR, .17 Mach2 & .17 Remington are quite sensitive to barrel fouling and the accuracy can deteriorate after 25-35 shots). I have read about new barrels being 'conditioned' when new by routine of firing and cleaning. This is designed to remove and roughness in the rifling.

    I've had one customer who was being driven nuts by an RWS Excalibre which was stupidly accurate when operating room clean but wouldn't group for toffee once it had the slightest spec of fouling. I suggested he should try lapping the barrel but i heard months later that he sold the rifle.
    Good info! Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pod View Post
    Had no problems yesterday swapping between JSB Heavy and Defiants - but both were lubed with the same oil
    That is unlikely to make a difference. If using the same lube was a solution it would be common practice. It is.more.lieluly that both projectiles you used are essentially compatible.
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    Old but good thread with plenty of food for thought.

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    I really cannot believe that it is nearly 16 years since I started this thread off.

    frightening isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by u.k.neil View Post
    I really cannot believe that it is nearly 16 years since I started this thread off.

    frightening isn't it?


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    That's because it isn't

    9/2008 - 1/2020 = 11.3 years not even close to 16

    should've gone to .....

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