Semi automatic multi shot airrifle ???

[kippers]

...But I was told and read here some years back that semi auto was technically not allowed at lest with a rifled barrel .
Others with a stronger grasp of the frivolities of the Law as it relates to airguns being treated as fireams , can tell for sure , but the aforementioend semi auto by Crosman is a smoothbore for this very reason . I was even told by Brocock that if the same model is sold on the Continent then its rifled for accuracy but here has to be converted to smoothbore as considered a firearm - even to it only does 6or 7ft/lb
Nonsense and stupid for all to see .

Correctomundo!! Cannot have a rifled barrel semi-auto air rifle here in the UK as it is deemed illegal.

[Gary C]

FACT
Paraphrasing:
SA is only allowed if chambered for .22LR, and the HO don't want it for air rifles. If there was one made then there would be a test case, if HO lost they would simply change the existing law.

No company with any sense will stick there heads above the ramparts and be the first

[Ady]

FACT
Paraphrasing:
SA is only allowed if chambered for .22LR, and the HO don't want it for air rifles. If there was one made then there would be a test case, if HO lost they would simply change the existing law.

No company with any sense will stick there heads above the ramparts and be the first

Also .22wmr

Basically all the .22 rimfire round (.22lr & .22wmr) were the only rifles allowed to keep SA status in the UK. All other calibres were not allowed including all air rifles.

The reason most of us see .17hmr and .17mach2 not allowed is because it was introduced as a calibre after the rules were amended.
Although its never likely to be considered in the future, like most good things.

Having said the above, if / when the rule book is revised.
I'd be concerned for .22 rimfire SA 's future over here

[Matt C.]

FACT
Paraphrasing:
SA is only allowed if chambered for .22LR, and the HO don't want it for air rifles. If there was one made then there would be a test case, if HO lost they would simply change the existing law.

No company with any sense will stick there heads above the ramparts and be the first

As usual Mr. Cooper is right. I have had the priveledge to shoot an AirWolf SA 50ft/lb. It was a prototype, and indeed a superb gun. Also indeed not for the Uk market for reasons previously mentioned. With the present paranoia, we will do our best to keep shooting what we have, it has been made, but I doubt we will ever get to use one in the field. The .22 rimmy SA, is a spendid gun but would never work on my permission due to small fields and footpaths. I am very happy with a ten shot bolt action S10. I am sure that I, as many, would generally take the quarry with the first shot or not at all.

ATB, Voldemort

[NoWayNoHow]

As some of you have mentioned Daystate have built a semi automatic based on an Air Wolf MVT I think, one of the guys in our club has seen it though I can't remember if he shot it, whilst he was there a while back.

[AD_K]

Wasnt there something about members of Gun Trade association have a Gentlemans agreement to not test the water on this too?

Just to pick up on something GaryC said, the .22 rimfire cartridge is the answer to this!!! Grab yourself an FAC, get a slot for a .22l/r rifle and then take your pick!! Many different varietys are available to the UK semi auto shooter:

Ruger 10/22
Anchutz 525
Remington 597
Many different AR-15 type variants
Walther GSP (for gays)
Walther G22 (for bullpup fans)

This list goes on and on..... rimfire is anywhere between £1.50 and £4 for 50 rounds.
Not quite as cheap as air rifle pellets but after you factor in the cost of an air bottle, service of air bottle, filling equipment like hoses etc, re filling etc it does balance out.

[Home Guard]

ruger 10/22 a truly, real men only gun :d
anchutz 525 rednecks
remington 597 oooohh, i want one! :d
many different ar-15 type variants action men and rambo wannabies.
walther gsp (for gays) most will agree.
walther g22 (for bullpup fans) they say size doesnt matter.

:d:d:d

[AD_K]

Ruger 10/22 - Best .22 semi auto available ever
Anchutz 525 - Complete load of old tosh farmers 'always in the tractor' gun
Remington 597 - for those who wanted a bolt action
Many different AR-15 type variants - For those who want to spice up Air soft
Walther GSP (for gays) - still for gays and ex prone rifle shooters
Walther G22 (for bullpup fans) - Left handed weirdos

I agree mostly Home Guard Have made a few modifications tho...

[charub]

Correctomundo!! Cannot have a rifled barrel semi-auto air rifle here in the UK as it is deemed illegal.

Does this mean that one of ben taylors much hyped smooth twist barrels would bypass this law (playing devils advocate)

[Steyr]

Does this mean that one of ben taylors much hyped smooth twist barrels would bypass this law (playing devils advocate)

I would argue that the barrel is not a smooth barrel which does not impart any spin on the projectile.

It relies on a shape at the end to shape and rotate the pellet/bullet as it passes though and out of the barrel.

To all intents and purposes it is a type of rifling.

As for SA 22LR, your welcome to them. Bl00dy horrible things.

[AD_K]

I would argue that the barrel is not a smooth barrel which does not impart any spin on the projectile.

It relies on a shape at the end to shape and rotate the pellet/bullet as it passes though and out of the barrel.

To all intents and purposes it is a type of rifling.

As for SA 22LR, your welcome to them. Bl00dy horrible things.

Steyr, Next time you are over my way. Kingston / Wimbledon or Bisley area... let me know and I'll convert you to a semi auto fan!!!

Many have tried to resist, and failed.

[kippers]

Does this mean that one of ben taylors much hyped smooth twist barrels would bypass this law (playing devils advocate)

Will let you know as I'm seeing him this week but in all honesty the water is a bit murky here and as said by others, no manufacturer really wants to stick their neck on the line or break a gentlemans agreement. I have heard though that Daystate have been looking at a SA for the American market.
I'd go for a rimmie though as these are brilliant fun and do what they're supposed to. More to go wrong on an air rifle if you want SA especially at our lower powers plus it would push the price up too. Airrifles as you know are already dearer than firearms.

[bengarzy]

Does this mean that one of ben taylors much hyped smooth twist barrels would bypass this law (playing devils advocate)

Nope, it spins the projectile so is "Rifled" just not as you know it.

Ben