Fas 6004 v 604

[mikec4]

I had a 6004 two days before it broke. (the back sight). I took it back to the suppliers and got a refund.

Sorry but I believe I'm reading a lot of BS on this thread.
Human nature I guess but it's wrong to judge in the context of a few isolated incidents.
BS of course.
The 6004 is made by the same company using the same parts and tooling.
I challenge anyone here to strip a 604 and 6004, put the components side by side and illustrate the differences.
Won't happen or course because the people spouting this ill informed nonsense are I believe just making stuff up.
Feel free to prove me wrong.

The example bought by I.J. was brought up to Rivington to set up on the 10 metre range.

On adjusting the elevation, on the second occasion, the adjusting screw parted company with the pistol.

When it was examined, the 3mm screw was tapped off line into a very soft aluminium mounting block.

Poor design and execution; no comparison with an FAS 604 at all. (We had one of those in the club at the time to compare)

I was there - do you have a time machine or do you just comment with no knowledge..

[candleman]

I was there - do you have a time machine or do you just comment with no knowledge..

Yes I was there and had a lot of experience shooting the 604.
You're telling me a fault with the rear site which is easily repairable is reason not to buy the 6004.
Meanwhile the OP points out a far more significant design flaw in the 604 which you choose to ignore.
Unbelievable.
I hear these stupid old is better than new cases all the time related to all sorts of things and most of it comes from ill informed forum sages who set themselves up as experts but in fact haven't a clue what they're talking about.

[I. J.]

Yes I was there and had a lot of experience shooting the 604.
You're telling me a fault with the rear site which is easily repairable is reason not to buy the 6004.

But it wasn't. A 3mm threaded hole taped into ally? There was no way of increasing the size of the hole because of the lock up. We have a few engineers and mechanics in the club and everyone who looked at it commented on its poor design.

Im no expert - Ive only been shooting match pistols over 10 years - but sights on a match pistol , any make of match pistol are very important.

'Yes I was there' ???? What? At Rivington Riflemen when this happened?

Ive never owned a 604 so dont know about any flaws so I wont comment on that. I have owned a 6004 for a very short period and it was cr*p.

[mikec4]

Yes I was there [not at Rivington on the day in question you weren't] and had a lot of experience shooting the 604.
You're telling me a fault with the rear site which is easily repairable is reason not to buy the 6004.
Meanwhile the OP points out a far more significant design flaw in the 604 which you choose to ignore.
Unbelievable.
I hear these stupid old is better than new cases all the time related to all sorts of things and most of it comes from ill informed forum sages who set themselves up as experts but in fact haven't a clue what they're talking about.

I'm sorry I touched a nerve; the fault with the 6004 was a steel 3mm screw badly aligned into a soft alloy block. It stripped the thread in the alloy and was totally u/s.

As a skilled engineer - toolroom fitter and production machinery maintenance technician as well as an ill informed forum sage I can usually recognise a design fault.

You can wind your neck in now; I don't argue with idiots as they tend to bring you down to their level and beat you with many years of acquired experience.