lightstream vs bushnell

[TARGETZERO]

HERES AN UPDATE ON MY FIRST INITIAL FINDINGS ON THIS SCOPE,AT FIRST I WAS A BIT DISSAPOINTED,ACOUPLE OV DETAILS I FAILED TO NOTICE WHEN FIRST SETTING UP MY ZERO,LED ME TO BELIEVE this scopes turrets were crap,but i take that all back,i still think the turrets are a bit mechanical,but after a good session today i cant fault them,there was something wrong with my barrel,it had took a slight knock somewhere along the lines,and caused the initial zeroing problem ov the turrets running out ov clicks,this was rectified by a friend,and today zeroing inn was a piece ov ,you get the picture any way the scope has held zero,and it has been put through its paces today believe me,and its hit everything aimed at no problem,this may seem contary to what i first thought about this scope,but i think its starting to win me over,the optics at first seemed ok,and nothing special, but after practising in near enough all the light spectrums,i cant realy fault it,its still not as good as the bushnell opticly but very good none the less. perry

[bengarzy]

HERES AN UPDATE ON MY FIRST INITIAL FINDINGS ON THIS SCOPE,AT FIRST I WAS A BIT DISSAPOINTED,ACOUPLE OV DETAILS I FAILED TO NOTICE WHEN FIRST SETTING UP MY ZERO,LED ME TO BELIEVE this scopes turrets were crap,but i take that all back,i still think the turrets are a bit mechanical,but after a good session today i cant fault them,there was something wrong with my barrel,it had took a slight knock somewhere along the lines,and caused the initial zeroing problem ov the turrets running out ov clicks,this was rectified by a friend,and today zeroing inn was a piece ov ,you get the picture any way the scope has held zero,and it has been put through its paces today believe me,and its hit everything aimed at no problem,this may seem contary to what i first thought about this scope,but i think its starting to win me over,the optics at first seemed ok,and nothing special, but after practising in near enough all the light spectrums,i cant realy fault it,its still not as good as the bushnell opticly but very good none the less. perry

Its a real shame that you didnt find the problem with the rifle before you wrote the original test, I cant believe that you didnt know that the the turrets are1/8" of an inch per click at 100 yards and that they are DOUBLE sprung for perfect repeatability.
These scopes have been specialy built to Alans exacting standards with cost coming second regardless and then someone who obviously has little understanding of either the rifle or scope puts himself forward as an expert and writes the sort of drivel we have above, if your going to write a report make sure you have a little understanding of the subject and can use the odd full stop and comma in the right place.

Ben

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[TARGETZERO]

Its a real shame that you didnt find the problem with the rifle before you wrote the original test, I cant believe that you didnt know that the the turrets are1/8" of an inch per click at 100 yards and that they are DOUBLE sprung for perfect repeatability.
These scopes have been specialy built to Alans exacting standards with cost coming second regardless and then someone who obviously has little understanding of either the rifle or scope puts himself forward as an expert and writes the sort of drivel we have above, if your going to write a report make sure you have a little understanding of the subject and can use the odd full stop and comma in the right place.

Ben
FIRST POINT,I WAS ASKED TO DO THE WRITE UP,SECOND POINT I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE AN EXPERT,THIRD POINT THE GUN WAS PURCHASED OFF THIS SITE,ON THE DAY OV THE FIRST TEST,THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME IT HAD BEEN SHOT BY ME,THIER SEEMED ABSOULUTLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE GUN,AFTER GETTING BOTH ITEMS LOOKED AT BY A PROFFESSIONAL, HE CLAIMED THE BARREL HAD BEEN KNOCKED ,NOT ENOUGH TO NOTICE ,BUT ENOUGH TO MAKE A SLIGHT DIFFERANCE,I HAVE ALREADY SPOKE TO ALAN OVER THIS,AND TOLD HIM I WOULD POST AN UPDATE AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT WHAT THE SCORE WAS,I KNEW ID GET SOME CRAP OVER WHAT ,I INITIALLY WROTE,I COULD OV LEFT IT,BUT ITS A REVIEW AND THESE ARE MY FINDINGS,NOT YOURS.I STILL THINK THE SCOPE IS AN ALRIGHT SCOPE BUT NOT WORTH THE MONEY.AND LAST POINT KEEP TO MESELF PS THIS WOULNDNT HAPPEN TO HAVE ENY BEARINGS ON YOUR ABOVE COMMENTS WOULD IT I have some of these in stock and they are truly top notch, sold 2 already and users have both already got back to me to say how amazed they are at the overall quality and specialy the price. Light Stream will go far..

Ben

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Why should someone who is not deemed an expert be deemed incapable of writing a review?
If you use a scope, your perception of the piece of equipment is valid, especially to yourself.
Is it a requirement that we adopt the "Airgun World" or "Airgunner" method of reviewing kit
As for the correct use of grammer, should he perhaps have dictated his findings to someone to write for him That seems to work in the odd magazine too.

I had no problem in either reading or understanding the review. The barrel issue was unfortunate, but it was admitted and as stated, did not affect the optical quality. As it stands, that has not changed since the initial review.

[TARGETZERO]

[dbc-65]

I had no problem in either reading or understanding the review. The barrel issue was unfortunate, but it was admitted and as stated, did not affect the optical quality. As it stands, that has not changed since the initial review.[/QUOTE]
AS FROM BLUE

I'll go alone with that, i was one of the chaps that asked for a veiw of Perry and enjoyed reading it and commenting on it.
Perry saved me from rushing out and spending another load of cash which i thank him and a few others for.

Cheers Perry.

Dave

[TARGETZERO]

thanks dave,just been informed a thread was pulled on this topic,any ideas why???

[bengarzy]

Why should someone who is not deemed an expert be deemed incapable of writing a review?
If you use a scope, your perception of the piece of equipment is valid, especially to yourself.
Is it a requirement that we adopt the "Airgun World" or "Airgunner" method of reviewing kit
As for the correct use of grammer, should he perhaps have dictated his findings to someone to write for him That seems to work in the odd magazine too.

I had no problem in either reading or understanding the review. The barrel issue was unfortunate, but it was admitted and as stated, did not affect the optical quality. As it stands, that has not changed since the initial review.

So the fact that he slated the scope when the rifle was faulty is ok in your oppinion?
The fact that he did not have the knoledge to recognise this would then mean he does not have the ability to air his views and adversly affect the sales of a brand new product.
The fact is the Light-Stream is built to the same exacting standards as the top end scopes but is more than 30% less expensive than them BECAUSE it does not have the magic names engraved on it.
If you are going to put a review on here it would make sense if your other equipment was of a KNOWN high standard previously so that some sort of judgement could be made, not go off half cocked and then come back to try to put it right.

Ben