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    Many thanks again, the one I was looking at did have Parker Hale Birmingham stamped on top of the barrel, and had Henry rifling .451 on left hand side of barrel and a five digit serial number, spoke to the guy explained why I wouldn’t be purchasing it and gave him the relevant info to come to the conclusion it was probably a euroarms made gun.

    the original one i found a few months ago, kranks had it. Having made a enquiry with them and seeing Parker Hale listed on their web site , the add states in three places manafacrured by Parker Hale £935 or somewhere near that, when I got a reply from them the price went to £1300 , when I questioned the price difference compared to the web site, I was told this one is original Parker Hale. I told him the one one the web site states manafactured by Parker Hale, the bloke told me no they are euroarms replicas so I questioned why they where being advertised as Parker Hale and there was no mention of euroarms on the website , never got a reply . I would have paid the original price but to me it was hiking the price up or not advertising the gun correctly, either way I won’t purchase a Parker Hale from kranks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markreid View Post
    Many thanks again, the one I was looking at did have Parker Hale Birmingham stamped on top of the barrel, and had Henry rifling .451 on left hand side of barrel and a five digit serial number, spoke to the guy explained why I wouldn’t be purchasing it and gave him the relevant info to come to the conclusion it was probably a euroarms made gun.

    the original one i found a few months ago, kranks had it. Having made a enquiry with them and seeing Parker Hale listed on their web site , the add states in three places manafacrured by Parker Hale £935 or somewhere near that, when I got a reply from them the price went to £1300 , when I questioned the price difference compared to the web site, I was told this one is original Parker Hale. I told him the one one the web site states manafactured by Parker Hale, the bloke told me no they are euroarms replicas so I questioned why they where being advertised as Parker Hale and there was no mention of euroarms on the website , never got a reply . I would have paid the original price but to me it was hiking the price up or not advertising the gun correctly, either way I won’t purchase a Parker Hale from kranks.
    As you can see from my post, which is based on factory figures, and not imagination, a FIVE-figure gun MAY have had a Parker-Hale barrel, especially with the other markings on it as well. THE test is to see the PROOF MARKS of the Birmingham proof house - AND a number below 9000.

    There is one such rifle in my local dealers - PM me for details.

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    Read your email.

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    .451 Parker hale

    I’ve recently taken a Parker hale volunteer in with a 3 digit number and it’s got an adjustable sight maybe even a Parker hale but unsure. They seem to shoot very well & tend to favour Swiss powder I’ve found, I’ll be taking it to the Bisley Phoenix show to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capper View Post
    I’ve recently taken a Parker hale volunteer in with a 3 digit number and it’s got an adjustable sight maybe even a Parker hale but unsure. They seem to shoot very well & tend to favour Swiss powder I’ve found, I’ll be taking it to the Bisley Phoenix show to sell.
    Thanks for the info, purchased a Birmingham gun on Saturday, good luck with your sale
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    PH 2 Band.

    PH 2 Band .577" Serial Number 5165.

    I sold it about 6 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield2band View Post
    PH 2 Band .577" Serial Number 5165.

    I sold it about 6 years ago.
    Thank you, Sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capper View Post
    I’ve recently taken a Parker hale volunteer in with a 3 digit number and it’s got an adjustable sight maybe even a Parker hale but unsure. They seem to shoot very well & tend to favour Swiss powder I’ve found, I’ll be taking it to the Bisley Phoenix show to sell.
    They ALL had an adjustable rear sight, and if it is a three-digit number then it is almost certainly a genuine P-H rifle. Italian production using P-H barrels started at 9000 and ran to 14000 - after that they are entirely Italian-made.

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    As mentioned in earlier posts, early PH rifles were far superior. The first run up to serial number 1000 had the hammered rifling, the Henry rifles shot a lot better. I have access to both and can attest to their accurate groups. Word to the wise, size your rounds,clean between shots and your groups will be tight. A quick check to tell rifles from the later Italian run was they didn't have case hardened hammers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyq View Post
    As mentioned in earlier posts, early PH rifles were far superior. The first run up to serial number 1000 had the hammered rifling, the Henry rifles shot a lot better. I have access to both and can attest to their accurate groups. Word to the wise, size your rounds,clean between shots and your groups will be tight. A quick check to tell rifles from the later Italian run was they didn't have case hardened hammers.
    The serial numbers are also a good guide, according to David Minshall, competition secretary of the MLAGB, archivist and historian, world and commonwealth champion Enfield shooter and author of many articles on the various Enfield rifles shot between 1853 and the present day.

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