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    Just to see what all the fuss is about, I knocked one up out of Delrin this afternoon.

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    Whether it makes a difference I have yet to find out

    But you can feel the pellet going into the rifling as you push the breech home. On the Steyr, there is only about 35mm gap when the breech is open, so it is easier to push the probe gently with the breech, unless you have tiny little fingers.


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    I always thought these tools were for improving the seal and shape of the pellet skirt and ensuring consistent depth of seating in spring guns. Therefore matchsticks, cotton buds or their use with PCP's is pretty much a waste of time IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POK! View Post
    I always thought these tools were for improving the seal and shape of the pellet skirt and ensuring consistent depth of seating in spring guns. Therefore matchsticks, cotton buds or their use with PCP's is pretty much a waste of time IMO.
    Out of interest, why wouldn't consistent depth of seating matter with PCPs?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rogb View Post
    Out of interest, why wouldn't consistent depth of seating matter with PCPs?
    OK for PCP without a bolt/probe I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by gunbag View Post
    I like to use them for sorting out 'dinked' pellet skirts.

    A ball ended one in brass would be nice
    That's why I said that.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikemorton View Post
    Ever tried seating a .177 pellet in a Daystate mag without a seating tool?

    You would need really tiny fingers!
    Daystate didn't think it through.

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    Can't use them in a springer

    My FAC TX loses 60fps or there about when I seat the pellet into the rifling. This has been confirmed by 2 other spring gun shooters at our club. It also made the shot cycle feel very harsh.

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    For break barrel springers.......

    .......try a refreshing cocktail at your local (no driving for twelve hours mind) then take home the stirrer which should have a lovely little ball at one end
    ( BTW Probably best for .22")
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    With built in pen...

    Quote Originally Posted by averageplinker View Post
    .......try a refreshing cocktail at your local (no driving for twelve hours mind) then take home the stirrer which should have a lovely little ball at one end
    ( BTW Probably best for .22")
    And you can do what I did ,which is cut off the ball end of the stirrer with about 8mm of rod still attached and glue it into the end of a pen...
    Pellet seater at one end pen at the other... A Multi-Tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by averageplinker View Post
    .......try a refreshing cocktail at your local (no driving for twelve hours mind) then take home the stirrer which should have a lovely little ball at one end.
    (BTW Probably best for 0.22")
    Correct! But the other end is rounded off too, for 0.177". Regards ... Geek
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    Quote Originally Posted by FPoole View Post
    My FAC TX loses 60fps or there about when I seat the pellet into the rifling. This has been confirmed by 2 other spring gun shooters at our club. It also made the shot cycle feel very harsh.

    I think that by seating the pellet further into the barrel on a springer you are effectively increasing the volume of the transfer port leading to reduced efficiency and making piston bounce more likely, hence the reduced MV and increased harshness. Just a thought.

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    Try a golf tee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 18 Wheeler View Post
    I think that by seating the pellet further into the barrel on a springer you are effectively increasing the volume of the transfer port leading to reduced efficiency and making piston bounce more likely, hence the reduced MV and increased harshness. Just a thought.
    Pretty much so but rather than bounce, you are probably allowing c-r-a-sh!

    Not a good idea to push a pellet down a springer's bore.

    I use a fingernail to ensure consistent flush seating. While still attached to my finger, lest there be any doubt...
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    Quote Originally Posted by POK! View Post
    I always thought these tools were for improving the seal and shape of the pellet skirt and ensuring consistent depth of seating in spring guns.
    I like to use them for sorting out 'dinked' pellet skirts.

    A ball ended one in brass would be nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by POK! View Post
    I always thought these tools were for improving the seal and shape of the pellet skirt and ensuring consistent depth of seating in spring guns. Therefore matchsticks, cotton buds or their use with PCP's is pretty much a waste of time IMO.
    Ever tried seating a .177 pellet in a Daystate mag without a seating tool?

    You would need really tiny fingers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogb View Post
    Just to see what all the fuss is about, I knocked one up out of Delrin this afternoon.

    Pic1 Pic2 Pic3 Pic4

    Whether it makes a difference I have yet to find out

    But you can feel the pellet going into the rifling as you push the breech home. On the Steyr, there is only about 35mm gap when the breech is open, so it is easier to push the probe gently with the breech, unless you have tiny little fingers.
    Nice looking tool and even if it don't work you will look cool using it
    I expect it is you Target boys and girls that get the best from it isn't it????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavalier View Post
    Nice looking tool and even if it don't work you will look cool using it
    I expect it is you Target boys and girls that get the best from it isn't it????
    Ooh cheeky!

    Actually got it out at the club today... the pellet probe, what did you think?

    And guess what, with the Steyr groups at 45 yards were exactly the same as without probing, except a couple of mm lower due to the slightly lower velocity (about 15fps). So good try but no cigar.

    I will try the same procedure in the 80 next time I get a chance to see if it helps with a .22 springer but TBH it was grouping brilliantly at 45 today too


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