Crosman 108 Town & Country

[45flint]

Yes, the blade is positioned to work with the taller front sight such that no adjustment is needed when switching from one to the other.

Those production numbers look like the ones from....... can't remember his name offhand, put out the "Identifying all Crosman" pamphlet ... and they are entirely bogus as far as we could ever tell. The Crosman engineer who worked with me on the 75 Years book tried his best to find any production numbers and, for the most part, completely failed. In short, we could never confirm those number although they, as the story goes, originally came from Crosman.

I find it very believable that those production numbers are entirely bogus. Given there are no serial numbers I think you could probably use sampling statistics to probably estimate a number. How many of these do you see in a year for sale? As one example, how many Sheridan SuperGrades do you see for sale in a year? How many of both do you see at guns shows? I have followed both guns pretty closely in the last several years. We know how many Sheridans were made, several thousand. In the last 2 years it would have been much easier for me to buy a Supergrade than a T&C. Of course there could be many factors going on: the high value and reputation of a Super Grade may bring more out of the woodwork? But if there were really 75,000 made I have no doubt you would see many more surface. 5000 would be more believable to me and I would bet my money that is too high.

[DT Fletcher]

I find it very believable that those production numbers are entirely bogus. Given there are no serial numbers I think you could probably use sampling statistics to probably estimate a number. How many of these do you see in a year for sale? As one example, how many Sheridan SuperGrades do you see for sale in a year? How many of both do you see at guns shows? I have followed both guns pretty closely in the last several years. We know how many Sheridans were made, several thousand. In the last 2 years it would have been much easier for me to buy a Supergrade than a T&C. Of course there could be many factors going on: the high value and reputation of a Super Grade may bring more out of the woodwork? But if there were really 75,000 made I have no doubt you would see many more surface. 5000 would be more believable to me and I would bet my money that is too high.

Could easily be less than a thousand or so. It was, from what we know, a disaster at retail. Just too expensive. Crosman actually dumped their remaining stock to a Chicago wholesale house, they (the wholesale house) sold them off for something like $10.

I came across 2 model 107, which really do seem to ultra rare, rather early in the process. One was the find of a lifetime, it was at a super antique mall in Davenport, Iowa (home of the Brown Pneumatic) and I figured there would be an outside chance of a Brown showing up at an antique mall, well, a TC was found instead. Spotted it from a distance. Up close I could see that it was .177 caliber. It was in wonderful condition. Slowly turned over the price tag..... after seeing so many stupid prices on airguns I didn't want to be devastated ...... $35.00. Asked for and received a 15% professional discount. Ended up selling it at some point and then no more TC's came around. Had to wait for the Myron Kasok auction to finally get another one.

Collecting note: the 1949 Town and Country Sr. model is distinguished by the butt plate which has the Crosman Arms round logo but is otherwise smooth. This plate breaks very easily. Setting it down on a hard surface and crack it goes. The condition of the butt plate figures significantly in the value. I would deduct at least a $100 off the value for a missing or broken original butt plate. There were never any spares in the Crosman Repair system for this part so it can't be replaced.

[Jenny Dipple]

Could easily be less than a thousand or so. It was, from what we know, a disaster at retail. Just too expensive. Crosman actually dumped their remaining stock to a Chicago wholesale house, they (the wholesale house) sold them off for something like $10.

I came across 2 model 107, which really do seem to ultra rare, rather early in the process. One was the find of a lifetime, it was at a super antique mall in Davenport, Iowa (home of the Brown Pneumatic) and I figured there would be an outside chance of a Brown showing up at an antique mall, well, a TC was found instead. Spotted it from a distance. Up close I could see that it was .177 caliber. It was in wonderful condition. Slowly turned over the price tag..... after seeing so many stupid prices on airguns I didn't want to be devastated ...... $35.00. Asked for and received a 15% professional discount. Ended up selling it at some point and then no more TC's came around. Had to wait for the Myron Kasok auction to finally get another one.

Collecting note: the 1949 Town and Country Sr. model is distinguished by the butt plate which has the Crosman Arms round logo but is otherwise smooth. This plate breaks very easily. Setting it down on a hard surface and crack it goes. The condition of the butt plate figures significantly in the value. I would deduct at least a $100 off the value for a missing or broken original butt plate. There were never any spares in the Crosman Repair system for this part so it can't be replaced.

Out of curiosity how much did you sell it for?
Thank you Jenny

[45flint]

DT thanks for the butt plate info, fun to have the smooth one. I also have noticed that some TC’s have the through the stock safety (picture above). Assume they were a later variation as well?

[DT Fletcher]

Out of curiosity how much did you sell it for?
Thank you Jenny

Can't remember the specifics for that particular gun. Typical price back then was $700-$800 minimum for a nice 107. A nice 108 was a couple hundred less.

Would be interesting to see what a good looking T&C might fetch on the bay these days.

[45flint]

Can't remember the specifics for that particular gun. Typical price back then was $700-$800 minimum for a nice 107. A nice 108 was a couple hundred less.

Would be interesting to see what a good looking T&C might fetch on the bay these days.

The gun above was bought on the bay last week for $400, with a make a offer. The gun had a old 101 sight not the original Town and Country sight. I had a 101 with a Town and Country sight that I could swap. The gun actually ended up being nicer than I thought from the pictures.

[cinedux]

...NZ dollars ;-)
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Lis...?id=1548548631

[45flint]

...NZ dollars ;-)
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Lis...?id=1548548631

See where it goes, New Zealand $ good luck