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Okay, lets just put this thing to bed and we can move onI am sorry Tac, I didn't know that you were a 'Mod' here and were given the job of keeping threads to a certain length.Let's be frank and open here about the ROA, and be done with it.
I'll do as you say and stop posting on this matter as instructed.
Sorry.
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I think tac is commenting that it has run its course and can get longer than it needs to be without gaining anymore useful input.Originally Posted by MrChipShoulder
A mod? I would not have thought that.
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No, I'm not a mod, but as Mr enfield2band notes. I don't think that there is anything more to add.
Buy it or don't - for sure somebody else will step into the line. There are no more ROAs except used.
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totally agree......if sound and 100% working order buy it.....you wont regret it
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I have been to the shop again to look, but due to a lack of knowledge I'll not be buying it.
I don't want to risk my money or slot on my certificate.
For those interested, it is £400.
I've noticed Henry K have 4 in stock from £400-£695, so can't be all that rare or cheap.
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All our work here to convince you and tell you all about it, with many, many years of real-live hands-on experience, and you're still not sure. Shakes head.....
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From post 39
.I have to disagree that they are bomb proof.
Someone at the club bought a ROA. The cylinder, when it is at full cock would not lock up tight, it could be moved about .020" in either direction of the barrel centreline.
It was either badly worn internally, or had been bodged up by someone. I did not look at the slots on the cylinder itself but I don;t think they would have been worn. It had no accuracy at all probably because the ball was being shaved if the cylinder moved to one side when it was fired.
All that glitters is not gold, as they say.
Anything you buy second hand needs to be checked thoroughly. It is too late once you have parted with your hard earned dosh
Tac,
All you have told me is that Your gun has been running for 30 odd years with no issue and because of that they are ALL good.
Please tell me if you have inspected the gun I've been offered?
If no, how can you know it's condition?
Are you seriously telling me you can tell the condition of every gun in the world ever made because yours is OK?
I have had PM's giving me some advice about what to look for, and once that information was relayed, the people contacted couldn't help me.
This gun has slop in the Barrel at full cock, it has rust pitting that's been cleaned out and it has vice/clamp marks in the body.
Also the story changed as to how the shop got it twice. Once it was an old guys and he had a heart attack before he could shoot it (so it's new) the second time the story was the police had it for 5 years.
If I had some proper help, I could make a decision, but with no knowledge on this gun, and no club member to help me. I'm not going to sell a load of my personal stuff to buy an unknown and take up the last space on my certificate. You may have money to throw away and lots of empty spots on your licence, But I do not, I'm really sorry about that!
I'd love to buy it, but I can't take the risk with no info on what to look for.
Are you going to drive over to south Wales and help me out, I doubt it!
I'm still waiting for you to get me the info you promised you'd get me about a scope from about 2 years ago, YES I STILL REMEMBER!
I'm shaking my head as well !
Last edited by MrChipShoulder; 21-07-2020 at 10:11 PM.
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I could be partly to blame for this. Because Mr Chip Shoulder thought you were a mod and he could not post anything else on the thread he sent me a PM.
This:-
I checked that just now, there was some play I could see and feel, but it wasn't exactly slopping about. Having just reread your comment, I only checked one cylinder !!! Bugger!
I did take a video of the one cylinder I checked. There were also marks on it that looked like cleaned up rust pitting and vice clamping marks! Also the metal was marked a bit around the nipples as if the cylinder had been catching as it rotates? This can also be seen in the video.
So not sure, I expect no, I see that HK also have one in stock at the same £400 price.
I sent this reply:-
Hi, You can sometimes expect a little bit of rust on an older gun, especially blackpowder, so long as it is not deep and appears to have been badly neglected. I would be wary of any gun with vice marks. Why has it been in a vice? Anyone who is competent would have used lead sheet or thick leather to clamp it up to avoid damage.
The nipples should not be binding anywhere. You do get a line on well used pistols where the locking pawl drags along the cylinder between the locking lugs while it is rotating, but that is normal.
I cannot decide this for you I'm afraid it is up to you. But from what you have told me I would look for something else.
I hope this helps.
It might have been better if he had started a new thread with the question about the condition of the gun and what to look for.
Last edited by enfield2band; 22-07-2020 at 09:12 AM.
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