Multishot adaptors are a pain in the butt.

[JerryD]

A couple of weeks back, I took 6 pellets out of an HW 100, and that wasn't the first one I've seen. If the cylinder isnt tight, it will multiload. It's also possible to jam the mag in backwards, it wont work, but I've seen it done. Coincedently, half an hour later, I did the same with a BSA..... Magazines are the invention of the devil..!

Gus

Worst one we got at the club was clearing 9 pellets out of a Brocock rifle barrel - which is pretty amazing, considering they only have a 6-shot mag!

I have also watched a guy with a multishot cock and load the rifle, and then rest the muzzle on his foot. When challenged he swore the rifle was unloaded and safe, Got the shock of his life when I asked him to point over the line and pull the trigger.

In a club environment there's no place for them: even with a rule to remove the mag before leaving the firing line there is still the doubt whether the rifle has been loaded or not before taking out the mag. I know of one club that bans multishot magazines altogether - single shot adapters only.


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[angrybear]

Worst one we got at the club was clearing 9 pellets out of a Brocock rifle barrel - which is pretty amazing, considering they only have a 6-shot mag!

I have also watched a guy with a multishot cock and load the rifle, and then rest the muzzle on his foot. When challenged he swore the rifle was unloaded and safe, Got the shock of his life when I asked him to point over the line and pull the trigger.

In a club environment there's no place for them: even with a rule to remove the mag before leaving the firing line there is still the doubt whether the rifle has been loaded or not before taking out the mag. I know of one club that bans multishot magazines altogether - single shot adapters only..

Having never shot a civi club range, don't they have a range controler to clear all shooters/rifles before they leave the fireing point

[JerryD]

Having never shot a civi club range, don't they have a range controler to clear all shooters/rifles before they leave the firing point

On an FT/HFT range there is a Chief Marshall, but you cannot see all shooters along the firing line, especially if the course of fire is laid out in woodland. It's the shooter's responsibility to clear their guns and carry in a safe manner.

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[Rickenbacker]

Having never shot a civi club range, don't they have a range controler to clear all shooters/rifles before they leave the fireing point

Wouldn't work - Most springers could conceivably be 'checked clear'. But not PCPs, because the RO couldn't see if there was a pellet (or stack of pellets) seated in the barrel.

Also - Shooters are moving between firing points / joining or leaving the zeroing range - at arbitrary times.

Even 10M indoors isn't shot in 'details' AFAIK.

Multis - Realistically, one could only check if the mag' was in or out. And there is a 'mag out between lanes' rule.

Some single shot adapters are fixed, others are 'swing out'... To make all guns 'checkable' - Somebody would have to write a 'best practice' safety procedure for each and every rifle model & mag' / conversion.

Personally, I wouldn't use a gun for competition if I couldn't show it (relatively) clear - bolt open with red safety flag in the breech between lanes.

But that's because I came from SB and FB prone rifle shooting into FT.

So anyhoo, it is down to the shooter to 'know' himself (or herself), if he (or she) is clear.

For those who refuse to keep their bolt open (incase rain / grit / bad luck gets into the 'workings') - Pointing the gun down-range (not aiming it) and pulling the trigger just before 'getting up' is a pretty good 'last line' of defence. But it's not perfect (trigger could be 'sticky', safety catch could be on, etc etc...).

FWIW I think 'multis' are 10X more tricky / difficult to use than single-shot guns. Making them best in the hands of advanced users. Some can be 'de-cocked', some can't. They're always fiddly. And they're probably not ideal for outdoor competition use. IMHO.

[M500dpp]

I had a multishot which had to go back, as it wouldnt group properly. After a lot of investigation I established the magazine was not aligning properly with the breech and pellets were getting head damage when loading. I also managed the multi pellet shot but was aware of what I had done and was able to discharge it safely.

Single shot only for me from now on.....