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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Thanks, guys.

    Yes, the reason for the rebuild is that I acquired one in OK condition with a broken lug on the cylinder, then (to my pleasant surprise) found a replacement cylinder with the lugs intact.

    If I need to replace the spring (e.g. if some previous owner shoved an Ox in there), any views on a sensible replacement? I'd be very happy to have it ticking over at 9-10 ft/lbs in .22".
    I cant help on that one mate. I have one with an old cut down Venom spring doing about 11.7 in .177 and another that came to me with a standard brand new spring also in .177 that I think is just under 11. I would add that both have gone over to ptfe however.

    If you still have the lug attachment I wouldnt scrap the old cylinder by the way. I am sure there is someone out there with the skill to weld it back on stronger than it was originally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyone View Post
    I cant help on that one mate. I have one with an old cut down Venom spring doing about 11.7 in .177 and another that came to me with a standard brand new spring also in .177 that I think is just under 11. I would add that both have gone over to ptfe however.

    If you still have the lug attachment I wouldnt scrap the old cylinder by the way. I am sure there is someone out there with the skill to weld it back on stronger than it was originally?

    Dave
    Thanks, Dave. Sadly, the old lug was not included.

    How easy is the conversion to a PTFE seal?

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    From memory pretty easy. I had the seals from Robb and if I recall correctly I just took off the leather heads and used the central screw to thread the new one on. Its threaded into the piston rather than a threaded projecting rod.

    I've done at least two of mine from memory (cant be sure as I have 4). Its my personal experience it has been beneficial but that is not everyone's experience going by a thread not so long ago.

    Nice rifles. I especially lusted after the WBPS Marauder version back in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyone View Post

    Nice rifles. I especially lusted after the WBPS Marauder version back in the day.

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    Dribble away Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Very much so

    There was one on another sale site 2-3 years ago and it looked all that it was meant to be in the flesh. I'm sure in that state of fettle it would give a FWB a run for it's money-possibly then some.

    Looking at the prices they seem a strong bit of coin for the time. But it's all relative I guess. Nice lumps of wood and engineering dont come cheap. And of course if someone had picked one up back in the day (and had looked after it since) they would easily make their money back now or there would be no justice in the world?

    A nice blast from the past there

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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post

    Thanks for that, Ian.

    Hijacking my own thread, I'd forgotten WBPS did things like putting Anschutz barrels on HWs. Anyone ever have one of those?

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    335

    A friend of mine has a WBPS 335. I couldn't wait to have a go with it...oh dear...not that impressed sorry to say and it was a full custom job. Mach 1.5

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    Interesting. My March 1985 copy of Sporting Air Rifle includes a test of the Webley Omega, and a round up of 12 months worth of rifle tests, including the RWS45, HW80 and 77, FWB Sport, Airmasters Sport, Annie 335, Kestock Sharp Ace. Most accurate of the bunch was the as-yet unnamed WBPS Anschutz custom 335 - .19" groups at 25 yards with Mount Star/Beeman Silver jets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach 1.5 View Post
    A friend of mine has a WBPS 335. I couldn't wait to have a go with it...oh dear...not that impressed sorry to say and it was a full custom job. Mach 1.5
    In that case I may well have been disappointed. And I guess that perhaps back in those days they may not have been undertaking quite as extensive work as are undertaken these days on full blown works to converted springers?
    Thats blown my dream there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Thanks, Dave. Sadly, the old lug was not included.

    How easy is the conversion to a PTFE seal?
    What is with the PTFE? Has someone got shares in T.R.Robb? Or is it the Brexit making everyone party like its 1987? PTFE can be slammy, deformy, has a high thermal expansion coefficient and looks like a suspension bush from a cheap sports kit. It has zero tolerance for cylinder variagies.

    Get yourself a proper parachute seal on it, you can get the converter thing and the seal from Vortek. Buy American like Mr Trump says and make yourself a true Patriot.

    Here is their UK supplier ... e-mail him for a quote on an adaptor and seal, I think it was £16 last time.

    http://www.agrtuning.co.uk/

    Degrease the piston and screw, put a dab of loctite on the threads, screw on the adaptor and massage the parachute into place. Bob's your lucky Uncle.
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    [QUOTE=Hsing-ee;7253322]What is with the PTFE? Has someone got shares in T.R.Robb? Or is it the Brexit making everyone party like its 1987? PTFE can be slammy, deformy, has a high thermal expansion coefficient and looks like a suspension bush from a cheap sports kit. It has zero tolerance for cylinder variagies.

    Get yourself a proper parachute seal on it, you can get the converter thing and the seal from Vortek. Buy American like Mr Trump says and make yourself a true Patriot.

    Here is their UK supplier ... e-mail him for a quote on an adaptor and seal, I think it was £16 last time.

    http://www.agrtuning.co.uk/

    Degrease the piston and screw, put a dab of loctite on the threads, screw on the adaptor and massage the parachute into place. Bob's your lucky Uncle.[/QUOTE


    No shares in Robb, fella. Just saying my experience of using that material. Clearly your experience is different to mine and you must tell it as you see it. This is what I have done. Don't forget back in the day there was very little choice as an alternative to the leather original (and many would advocate sticking with originality). Clearly there is much more choice these days and my preference nowadays would be for a softer parachute type seal similar to many mainstream OEM seals.
    That said my experience of using PTFE seals does not lean me towards any rush to strip down those guns already converted and swap over.

    By the way. You don't have shares in Vortek by any chance do you
    Dave

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    [QUOTE=jonnyone;7253335]
    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post

    By the way. You don't have shares in Vortek by any chance do you
    Dave
    Ha ha undeclared interests, in 2017? They make super seals, thats all....

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