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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmick View Post
    I have heard of pistols having an extended length to their grip, being legal. Obviously FAC but can someone shed some light on this for please. I am only interested in .22RF.
    Are these available and what needs to be on the licence and at what sort of price range.
    Thanks in advance
    Mick
    Just get an FAC with a slot for a .22lr LBP. There are 4 options really

    1. Buckmark pistol from westlake £599 http://westlakeengineering.com/12601.html or low mill ranges
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../381335226.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../381335228.jpg

    2. 1911 from the tunnle for £650 ish http://www.thetunnel.co.uk/

    3. 1911 Ivor Johnson from low lim ranges £1250 http://www.lowmillranges.co.uk/image...dit/lbp_03.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../393512852.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../393512848.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../393512845.jpg

    4. VQ custom from Stockade products about £2000 http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373687596.jpg


    Options other than pistol are LBR's Long barrel revolver.

    Taurus make them in .22, 177hmr, 30M1, 38/357, .44 mag and .45 acp for arround £699 new.
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../391617538.jpg


    Kora if you can get second hand are .22 and run around £400.

    Alpha from merseyside armoury are .22 and 38/357 about £630 . They also stock Freedom ars LBR's in .44 mag and 454 casull for £1999.
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373056146.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373054907.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373054905.jpg

    Other option are the JTL custom at £4000 from Gareth at Eurosport or Midway/black powder.co.uk
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373054909.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../352673041.jpg

    Smith and Wesson. I forget the RFD that was importing them from a guy modifying them in germany but the run at £2500 ish

    Metaba bottom firing LBR. Fires from the bottom of the cylinder reducing recol. Thats if you can find one about £900 ish http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373056321.jpg

    Ruger Redhawk about £1000 ish http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395852032.jpg

    or the Uberti Buntline Target LBR http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/ub...ne_target_lbr/

    rgs

    chris
    Last edited by chrismetallica1; 22-03-2011 at 04:05 PM. Reason: info added

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismetallica1 View Post
    Just get an FAC with a slot for a .22lr LBP. There are 4 options really

    1. Buckmark pistol from westlake £599 http://westlakeengineering.com/12601.html or low mill ranges
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../381335226.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../381335228.jpg

    2. 1911 from the tunnle for £650 ish http://www.thetunnel.co.uk/

    3. 1911 Ivor Johnson from low lim ranges £1250 http://www.lowmillranges.co.uk/image...dit/lbp_03.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../393512852.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../393512848.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../393512845.jpg

    4. VQ custom from Stockade products about £2000 http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373687596.jpg


    Options other than pistol are LBR's Long barrel revolver.

    Taurus make them in .22, 177hmr, 30M1, 38/357, .44 mag and .45 acp for arround £699 new.
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../391617538.jpg


    Kora if you can get second hand are .22 and run around £400.

    Alpha from merseyside armoury are .22 and 38/357 about £630 . They also stock Freedom ars LBR's in .44 mag and 454 casull for £1999.
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373056146.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373054907.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373054905.jpg

    Other option are the JTL custom at £4000 from Gareth at Eurosport or Midway/black powder.co.uk
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373054909.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../352673041.jpg

    Smith and Wesson. I forget the RFD that was importing them from a guy modifying them in germany but the run at £2500 ish

    Metaba bottom firing LBR. Fires from the bottom of the cylinder reducing recol. Thats if you can find one about £900 ish http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../373056321.jpg

    Ruger Redhawk about £1000 ish http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395852032.jpg

    or the Uberti Buntline Target LBR http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/ub...ne_target_lbr/

    rgs

    chris
    Great photos, thanks.

    That Uberti Buntline looks a tad muzzle-heavy!


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    Cheers Jim,
    As i shoot alot of LBR I have built up quite a few pictures of LBR's and info on them. Most people who buy the Uberti Buntline get a rod welded to the grip and cut the barrel down to 12" . Thats what we use to do the the Ruger Redhawk. Ruger exported them to the UK with an 18" barrel and no rod or brace fitted. However they didnt like it when we started cutting them down and welding the rod so there ceased exporting them Pitty as they are much better guns than a the Taurus.

    Chris

    This is an original Uberti Buntline
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857975.jpg

    and this is a modified one

    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857976.jpg

    This is an original Ruger Redhawk LBR no modification. They are superb but way too heavy

    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857880.jpg

    and this is what they are like after modification
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857881.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857882.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395852032.jpg
    Last edited by chrismetallica1; 22-03-2011 at 09:52 PM.

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    I shouldn't have come back to this thread. I'm quite tempted by one of those Buntlines now.

    Is there anyone in particular who does them modified to order or do you have to buy them as factory spec and then hunt out your own gunsmith?

    Thanks,
    Paul.

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    You need to orger factory spec. The following gunsmiths do modificationb on LBRS

    Alan Westlake (basically anything adding rods/ braces and barrel chopping down to 12")

    Roding Armoury ( Cylinders, timing, trigger work ect)

    The gunshop cat hill ( you need to ask them)

    Valley arms (again cylider work and trigger jobs)

    SYSS use to do work. However I think they only do wrist brace to rod conversion now as there were issues with getting Taurus Spares. Either way all the above gunsmiths are more than capable of puttin a rod onto a Buntline and turinging the barrel down from 18" to 12"

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    Thanks again Chris, that's really helpful.

    I have to admit I'm dithering something chronic! I want a pistol but only one as I can't spare more than one slot what with all my other toys, not to mention the money, and I just can't make my mind up.

    I like cowboy guns and I'm just about to start reloading .38 so the Buntline seems the obvious choice. Then I look at Alan Westlake's .22s and I think I want one of them. Then I think maybe a Taurus would make more sense as I could use it for plate shooting too but I already have the Rossi so maybe that doesn't matter.

    Damn licensing rules. I just want them all!

    I think I'll have a look round the Phoenix and see what arouses me most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptheta View Post
    Thanks again Chris, that's really helpful.

    I have to admit I'm dithering something chronic! I want a pistol but only one as I can't spare more than one slot what with all my other toys, not to mention the money, and I just can't make my mind up.

    I like cowboy guns and I'm just about to start reloading .38 so the Buntline seems the obvious choice. Then I look at Alan Westlake's .22s and I think I want one of them. Then I think maybe a Taurus would make more sense as I could use it for plate shooting too but I already have the Rossi so maybe that doesn't matter.

    Damn licensing rules. I just want them all!

    I think I'll have a look round the Phoenix and see what arouses me most.
    If your going to enter some of the main events like The Pheonix, The Imperial or either of the action weekends. I dont see any issues in getting a variation for an increase in slots. Speak to your local FEO and see. Just remember when you exceed 12 guns (inclusive of shotguns) they will send out crime prevention and stipulate aditional security measures

    rgs

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismetallica1 View Post
    Cheers Jim,
    As i shoot alot of LBR I have built up quite a few pictures of LBR's and info on them. Most people who buy the Uberti Buntline get a rod welded to the grip and cut the barrel down to 12" . Thats what we use to do the the Ruger Redhawk. Ruger exported them to the UK with an 18" barrel and no rod or brace fitted. However they didnt like it when we started cutting them down and welding the rod so there ceased exporting them Pitty as they are much better guns than a the Taurus.

    Chris

    This is an original Uberti Buntline
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857975.jpg

    and this is a modified one

    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857976.jpg

    This is an original Ruger Redhawk LBR no modification. They are superb but way too heavy

    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857880.jpg

    and this is what they are like after modification
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857881.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395857882.jpg
    http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL480.../395852032.jpg

    Yes, I definitely prefer the modified versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismetallica1 View Post


    I thinks thats a cracking Ruger!!

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