HW35, a few questions

[TonyL]

Hi Dave,

Welcome to the forum.

Lovely guns, the HW35.

Personally, with the spring also being a little bent, I'd go for a new spring that comes with custom fitted rear guide and top hat, which should result in a much more refined firing cycle.

I'd prefer to keep it on opens for that proper "classic" feel, but if going for a new scope would lean towards a nice 32mm scope in low mounts, due to the low comb of the 35.

Enjoy and feel free to shout up with any further questions and to get stuck into all the fun on here.

[look no hands]

Lovely guns, the HW35.

Still having mental problems I see

Don't worry Dave, just an on going "thing" me and Tony have

The 35 will certainly be good for target practice, just buy yourself a decent rifle and the 35 will make an excellent target

Pete

[TonyL]

Still having mental problems I see

Don't worry Dave, just an on going "thing" me and Tony have

The 35 will certainly be good for target practice, just buy yourself a decent rifle and the 35 will make an excellent target

Pete

Lovely guns, the HW35s.

Oops; did I say that already?

Lovely, classic rifles which can still compete favourably with many newer rifles.

Enjoy, Dave; and discount the naysayers' comments.

[mrto]

Great guns the 35 probably my favourite HW break barrel!There's a reason they've been in production for nearly seventy years!

[CapitalBee]

35's will shoot nicely with some work and at reasonable power levels to. A spring guide set would be recommended, but be careful as due to the change from leather piston seal to synthetic, there is a change in stroke (the distance the piston can travel as the spring is compressed and then released). Leather seals have shorter strokes, so standard guide sets might need some trimming off. The older 35's (yours) also have wider scope rails, though they are catered for - look for Sportsmatch 13mm mounts, they will help. Personally, I prefer a gloss finish 3-9x40 scope on my 35 - it fits in with the classic look and gives you all the magnification you need.

[pigeondave]

look for Sportsmatch 13mm mounts, they will help. Personally, I prefer a gloss finish 3-9x40 scope on my 35 - it fits in with the classic look and gives you all the magnification you need.

Thanks for the reply.

Does the 3-9x40 still allow you to use the iron sights ?

[CapitalBee]

Thanks for the reply.

Does the 3-9x40 still allow you to use the iron sights ?

Yes, though depending upon the magnification you use (it's worse at the lower magnification) you will get an out of focus 'ghost' of the front sight in you field of view. TBH, I usually shoot mine at x9 mag, so don't see any problems.

The fact your rifle is shooting so high, before you buy a new scope and mounts, run a straight edge from the cylinder body along the barrel, as it sounds like the trigger may have been pulled before the barrel was secure after cocking. If it's out of alignment, you may have to true it up (this can involve a set of soft jaws, and a length of pipe, or a mallet)

[pelletcaster]

Hi pigeondave,

HW35 are nice airguns.
Here my findings.


Introduced in 1950 there then was NO 7,5J power limit for airguns in Germany (as wrongly stated above by Micky Spillane, sorry lad) and the gun does not run best at 7 J but at about 10 to 10,5 Joule.

With abt. ser. no. 613000 in 1976 single sided safety was introduced.

The change from 13 mm rail to 11 mm happened around ser. no. 755000 abt. 1977/1978.

The switch from leather to nylon seals, increase of stroke from 65 to 69 mm and introduction of double sided safety happened with ser. no. 843636 in 1980.


A TbT kit should be a proper investment.
I'd go for the maxi-kit as this includes an original spring with properly fitting guides. Talk to the owner/seller to have the spring shortened to the a/m power range. Or shorten yourself.

Piston seal is also available there.

Keeping a leather piston seal piston and switching to a todays seal needs an adapter availabe as far as I know from Chambers or Knibbs.

Disassembly, proper clean and degrease, debur and polish and a final regrease with TbT's grease included in the kit shouldn't take too long and would most certainly result in a very nice shooting gun.

Top cream would be a trigger tune (sears polish and proper regrease).

Facing barrel droop a scope could be slightly shimmed or even better get a droop compensating one piece mount.


This is mine wearing a HAWKE Airmax EV 4 - 12 x 40 AO on KONUS one-block).
It was my first airgun tune five years back. I did the stock too and spent a barrel weight. Initially the internals were a V-MACH kit but after several thousand shots and two broken springs I switched out of interest to a VORTEK HPO kit but had to shorten the spring as running too hot with accuracy down. It's better now but still not as nice as with the first V-Mach kit.

https://picload.org/view/dcdilgrw/p8162166.jpg.html


Hope this helps.
Happy shooting.

Andy from Austria

[pigeondave]

A TbT kit should be a proper investment.
I'd go for the maxi-kit as this includes an original spring with properly fitting guides. Talk to the owner/seller to have the spring shortened to the a/m power range. Or shorten yourself.

Piston seal is also available there.

Keeping a leather piston seal piston and switching to a todays seal needs an adapter availabe as far as I know from Chambers or Knibbs.

Disassembly, proper clean and degrease, debur and polish and a final regrease with TbT's grease included in the kit shouldn't take too long and would most certainly result in a very nice shooting gun.

Top cream would be a trigger tune (sears polish and proper regrease).


Hope this helps.
Happy shooting.

Andy from Austria

Hi Andy,

Thanks for all the info. The Chambers site looks very interesting for spares and upgrades.

From memory the ser. no. starts 66XXXX and the rifle has a single sided safety. Interestingly the piston sear lever on our rifle is made of 3 plates. As I get more confident I may look to polish the trigger. It looks like a 3000 wheatstone might be on order.

I was looking at the TbT kit but was a little hesitant as I noted that the spring would need adjusting.

Is it a case of cut and heat the spring to bend it back to a flat bottom and a grind and polish to finish if i were doing the work myself?

[look no hands]

There's a reason they've been in production for nearly seventy years!

Yep they've still not sold all of the first batch they made, apparently they're now doing a buy one get the rest free offer

Pete

[TonyL]

Mmmmmm.......

[look no hands]

Mmmmmm.......

Don't tell me you're lost for words for once

Pete

[mrto]

Yep they've still not sold all of the first batch they made, apparently they're now doing a buy one get the rest free offer

Pete

People in glass houses........

But for the success of the HW35 propelling HW forward over the decades AA would probably never have existed with nothing to copy if HW had gone under before the 77 appeared!

A sobering thought!

[look no hands]

People in glass houses........

But for the success of the HW35 propelling HW forward over the decades AA would probably never have existed with nothing to copy if HW had gone under before the 77 appeared!

A sobering thought!

Cue Alistair.

And if the Chinese hadn't of produced a certain underlever rifle then HW wouldn't have produced the 77

Also I don't think I've ever seen a hidden underlever rifle in HW's line up.

Pete

[tinbum]

Still having mental problems I see

Don't worry Dave, just an on going "thing" me and Tony have

The 35 will certainly be good for target practice, just buy yourself a decent rifle and the 35 will make an excellent target

Pete

The main problem with a 35 and sub 12 is that it's not enough power to kill it humanely. I carry a battery angle grinder to supply the coup de gras where necessary.