Fitting a Scope to a 300S and 601.

[defblade]

The 601 I think will be a trickier proposition.

Needs duct tape Don't tape down the pump lever at the same time!!

On a more sensible note, I don't think you could scope the 601 as you need access to the loading port - the scope would have to be far too far forward to see through, or so far back you couldn't get your head down to the stock.

I suppose a forward-mounted pistol scope might work..... but why do you want to cheat, anyway?

[Rutty]

Swarovski Acoustic Sights have been fitted to P70s that are of similar geometry. But it involved alteration to the loading gate cover. Not something you would wish to do without good reason.

Rutty

[Cones]

Sportsmatch make a one piece mount for short rails like on the early 300s. It works well and moves the scope forward so you have enough eye relief.

I have one on one of my 300s rifles. Type OP12C

Here http://www.scopemounts.co.uk/air_rifles.html

For the longer rail the standard one piece works fine.

http://www.cones-stuff.co.uk/Feinwerkbau%20300s.htm

A shorter scope helps with loading as already suggested.



HTH

Mark

[zooma]

Thanks for your help and thoughts - I have never had a scope on a rifle before, but after reading "Successful Rifle Shooting" by David Parish where it suggested good use could be made of a scope to help with some aspects of match shooting techniques I thought I would buy one and give it a try.

To be honest, I always fancied trying a scope so this gave me the slightest of excuses to find the most suitable one to fit my 300S so I can have a "play". I think I had best forget about fitting one to my 601 as it does not seem like it will be practical.

I can understand the comments about choosing a shorter scope to avoid blocking the access to the loading port on the 300S, and it looks like the one fitted to Marks 300S is about as long as it would be practical to go ( what is that scope? - it looks good).

No cash has been spent yet, so if anyone has any specific types ( or magnification sizes) they have found works well on this rifle please let me know.

[rockdrill]

On a more sensible note, I don't think you could scope the 601 as you need access to the loading port - the scope would have to be far too far forward to see through, or so far back you couldn't get your head down to the stock.

Apparently FWB did make a scope mount for the 600 series, but the chances of finding one now would be slim!

If link works here is said mount:

[Wadhill1]

I have a 300s Junior, a 300s Match and a 300 SU.
I have scoped all of them, the junior was terrible the match not much better,BUT the SU is dream to shoot, I shoot 20 metre bench rest with it and am in the very high nineties. As said before I think it's alot to do with the balance of the rifle and plinking down the garden is good fun. The scope is only a Simmonds 4-12x40 on 10 mag and this gives enough room to load.

HTH
Charles

[zooma]

IIRC FWB did make a scope mount for the 600 series, but the chances of finding one now would be slim!

If link works here is said mount:

Hi Rockdrill,

This is looks like the best scope mounting solution for my 601 - do you know who actually made this mount or who stocked it or sold it by any chance?

Google search has come up with nothing helpful so far to help me find a seller of a mount like this, so if I can find out who made it I could try them and ask if they still have any available.

Thanks for your help - the photograph is very helpful

[rockdrill]

As said in my posting the information I found on it (very little) said it was an FWB factory mount. Looking at the mount, it appears very much like a Sportsmatch product in its style of construction and finish.

[18 Wheeler]

Here's a thread from the american yellow forum showing a number of 10m rifles fitted with scopes, including a number of FWB's. It may give you some ideas.

FWB also did a custom mount for the RT versions of the 601 with the from mount fitting around the objective bell of the scope rather than the scope tube. As said above it's highly unlikely you'll find one of them.

[zooma]

Thanks for your help with this, I did not understand the scope mount for the 600/601/602/603 was a genuine Feinwerkbau item, so I will give them a try to see if they have any left.

I am going to try a short scope, and I like the look of the Simmons Whitetail scope at about £100 new, but I have been told about another short Chinese scope that is worth looking at for around the £35 mark.

My guess is that "you get what you pay for", but it does look very well made so I will check it out first to see how well it works and if it is any good I will fit one to my 300S.

[zooma]

Now Feinwerkbau are back from their holidays I have been able to send them the picture shown on this thread of the superb scope mount fitted to the 601 rifle.

They say they have never made anything like this, but they are looking to see if they know anyone who may have any information about who may have manufactured this rare mount.

The mount will fit any of the 600/601/602/603 range of FWB rifles and so it would be good for me to find one, but I guess it will have limited appeal these days and so the chances of finding one must be slim.

[zooma]

Apparently FWB did make a scope mount for the 600 series, but the chances of finding one now would be slim!

If link works here is said mount:

I have finally given-up on ever finding one of these scope mounts to fit my Feinwerkbau 601 - but show it here again as there is a chance that a new BBS member that never read this thread the last time around may just be able to throw some light on who made it or where I can buy one.

......or maybe even have one to sell me!

Meanwhile, I have fitted a Simmons Whitetail Classic 1.5-5 x 20mm scope to my FWB 300S and will test it this week at 10 meters. I am a little aprehensive about the 20mm size, but it is small and neat and if it works it should be fun.

.....if not, I will start looking for a suitable 40mm scope like those shown previously on this thread.

[zooma]

I have found a problem with fitting this sight to my 300S.

As I "settle" on the cheekpiece of the rifle I see the cross hairs in the sight moving up and down, as well as left and right with every slight movement of the head.

I believe this is called parrallex, and there is no adjustment for this on the Whitetail 1.5-5 x 20mm, so it looks like I need to find a sight more suited to the closer distance of 10 metres, or find one that can have it's parrallex adjusted for use at this relatvely short distance.

Perhaps this is the job of the "distance" ring on a scope when fitted ?

The air rifle Running Boar shooters must have found suitable scopes to work at this distance - any ideas what works best at 10 metres?

[Wadhill1]

I shoot a FWB 300s SU at 20m bench rest with a Bushnell 4-12x40 scope. I took me a while to find the right scope for the rifle and I may not have found the perfect one yet, BUT tonight I had to shoot 4 cards. 95.96.96.97.

Put it this way the rifle shoots better than me.

I have found with all my bushnell scopes there seems to be a sweet spot, it takes a while to find but when you do its worth the time you have Spent.

Charles

[18 Wheeler]

I believe this is called parrallex, and there is no adjustment for this on the Whitetail 1.5-5 x 20mm, so it looks like I need to find a sight more suited to the closer distance of 10 metres, or find one that can have it's parrallex adjusted for use at this relatvely short distance.

It's still possible to adjust the parallax free distance. 10m is close range, but it should be possible to significantly reduce the parallax error you are seeing, if not fully remove it.

Here's a link showing what is involved. It's one of those jobs that is easier to do than write an explanation of.