Diana 470 target hunter

[Barryg]

BAR bought all but 1 gun of RUAG stock, I would call them first to see what they have.

I have no idea what stroke is in the 470 however or if you are getting a sub12 UK version....

Tony,
the 470 has a 52 piston with a 115mm stroke,

Where do we get the Diana spares now in the UK?

[bigtoe01]

Tony,
the 470 has a 52 piston with a 115mm stroke,

Where do we get the Diana spares now in the UK?

Barry how can it have a 52 piston when the 52 piston has a longer latch rod than the 440? It has to have a piston with a shorter rod for a longer stroke?

If you are right in that the 470 has 115mm stroke then its not the gun to get, the rifle to get is the 440, fit the 470 under lever and move the catch forward or make a new one..or do as i did and replace the rod from the underlever.

Is the rear action on the 470 longer than the rear action on the 440? The 440 will do 20fpe easy in .22 already in stock UK form with the right set up.

[Barryg]

Barry how can it have a 52 piston when the 52 piston has a longer latch rod than the 440? It has to have a piston with a shorter rod for a longer stroke?

If you are right in that the 470 has 115mm stroke then its not the gun to get, the rifle to get is the 440, fit the 470 under lever and move the catch forward or make a new one..or do as i did and replace the rod from the underlever.

Is the rear action on the 470 longer than the rear action on the 440? The 440 will do 20fpe easy in .22 already in stock UK form with the right set up.

Tony,
It just has a longer action
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1782/52460.jpg

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2002/p1306121457.jpg

this is just a rough guide
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/1...ingerchart.gif

Also the T05 -T06 trigger kit is the same with the same piston,
the T01 stroke is longer because it has a shorter piston rod.

[bigtoe01]

Tony,
It just has a longer action
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1782/52460.jpg

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2002/p1306121457.jpg

this is just a rough guide
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/1...ingerchart.gif

Also the T05 -T06 trigger kit is the same with the same piston,
the T01 stroke is longer because it has a shorter piston rod.

Well this pretty much means its not the ideal gun to start from then for UK use, extra weight in the action and the comp tube and an even longer rifle. It would be better to build from a 440TH like i have, if you swap the 440 piston for a lightened 52 piston you push stroke down to 78mm, then remove the restrictor, add a top hat and set the spring to UK power levels...much nicer and would you believe not that hard to cock in .177

The key to the 52 piston mod is to drop the weight to 250g including the seal and the tophat, this is a prototype which shortened the stroke to 70mm, it gives you an idea what I have done although this proved to hard to cock with the short under lever. The one in my 440 now is the same design as this although does not have a removable bearing to the rear (but does have a bearing) and does not have a bearing to the front as its not needed as i reduced the piston head size to 26mm as the piston rides on the seal only....remember standard stroke with the 52 piston in use is 78mm.

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9...s/IMG_4655.JPG

[Barryg]

One more option it has the same size action as the 440 again not sure how hard it would be to get one.
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1807/img8923ml.jpg

Tony, I still think that if you done your stuff on a 470 it would be a world beater for FT BTW the 460 is only just over 8 lbs in weight.

[bigtoe01]

One more option it has the same size action as the 440 again not sure how hard it would be to get one.
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1807/img8923ml.jpg

Tony, I still think that if you done your stuff on a 470 it would be a world beater for FT BTW the 460 is only just over 8 lbs in weight.

the weight may not be the issue, the issue is the length....its already a long gun.

the 460 stock may be better, i have looked at modding my 440 stock here but decided to carve a laminate stock instead, the but pad can be moved forward but the distance from the pistol grip to the trigger is too long also so its easier to make a new stock and maybe sell this stock on once done. The sporter stocks have better ergonomics IMO, the 440/470 stock is nice but build for 7ft Germans with hands like shovels..not 5ft 10 brits

I have a stock design now, a mixture of 440/CS800 which I think will work well, im considering making it ambi also so its easier to carve as everything is central and not offset.

[shootingmad]

Thanks for your input guys well I provisionally ordered one the importer said it will be about 3or4 weeks.but I wont hold my breath. I wonder if it's possible to order from one of the shop in the EU like Kraleschiet sport and have it sent to my local gun shop any one ever done that

[bigtoe01]

Thanks for your input guys well I provisionally ordered one the importer said it will be about 3or4 weeks.but I wont hold my breath. I wonder if it's possible to order from one of the shop in the EU like Kraleschiet sport and have it sent to my local gun shop any one ever done that

http://www.sportwaffen-schneider.de/...a8b6ce4b771ccb

http://www.sportwaffen-schneider.de/...a8b6ce4b771ccb


Here...you go, email the owner for shipping to the UK.

[shootingmad]

Has any one actually purchase a 12FT LBS air rifle from Germany and had it sent to A RFD what are the pitfalls if any

[bigtoe01]

Has any one actually purchase a 12FT LBS air rifle from Germany and had it sent to A RFD what are the pitfalls if any

just order a 7.5j version and a 16j spring and have them shipped to your door

[Barryg]

Has any one actually purchase a 12FT LBS air rifle from Germany and had it sent to A RFD what are the pitfalls if any

The only one that would bother me is that I like to examine the gun for any faults before I leave the shop,and what about the guarantee.

It seems crazy that there is not a reliable way to get a Diana in the
UK when they are the largest airgun company in the world, how do they make enough money to run their huge factory
They must be selling a lot somewhere.