Easyjet refuse Airrifle shooters for not having license...

[RobF]

I don't think anyone can do anything where this is concerned in respect of 'any carrier can refuse to carry anything or anyone for any reason provided it's not based on unlawful reasoning . With air weapons it's quite simply a pressure vessel and as such no one is obliged to carry them .
I agree it stinks and I'm no where near ever going to any event anywhere I'm just a paper puncher for fun as it were , but I did work for a courier company dealing with this type of problem on a daily basis .
I'd be interested to know what arrangements were in place for Olympics and commonwealth games , there may be a case for discrimination etc if Olympians have no problems but the common man does .

It's not that they are refusing air rifles. They are refusing non fac air rifles. Fac rifles and firearms they are happy to carry. Indeed they have carried non fav before for me several times.

Thanks for the contact details.

[RobF]

Basc are onto this.

I wonder if the magazines or amta would add weight to the cause?

[Airsporter1st]

Basc are onto this.

I wonder if the magazines or amta would add weight to the cause?

Highly unlikely I would say.

[Terry D]

Highly unlikely I would say.

Why would you say that?

Those shooters represent various manufacturers, do they not? So why would the manufacturers not be keen to help resolve this?

For the record, there will be a meeting on this subject at the Game Fair this weekend, when our legal advisors will be consulted.

[Airsporter1st]

Why would you say that?

Those shooters represent various manufacturers, do they not? So why would the manufacturers not be keen to help resolve this?

For the record, there will be a meeting on this subject at the Game Fair this weekend, when our legal advisors will be consulted.

Simply because there is nothing in it for them. Why would they give a flying fig that airguns bought in the UK could not be taken abroad?

[Terry D]

Simply because there is nothing in it for them. Why would they give a flying fig that airguns bought in the UK could not be taken abroad?

Did you not read the post to which you replied? When shooters take their rifles abroad to compete, they're flying the flag for whoever produces their rifles. There are also manufacturer-sponsored teams flying out. Plus, and I'm sure you'll struggle to believe this; the trade does actually care that its customers can get the most from the airguns they buy, and if they care enough about their sport to travel abroad to take part in it, those customers deserve support.

[Airsporter1st]

Did you not read the post to which you replied? When shooters take their rifles abroad to compete, they're flying the flag for whoever produces their rifles. There are also manufacturer-sponsored teams flying out. Plus, and I'm sure you'll struggle to believe this; the trade does actually care that its customers can get the most from the airguns they buy, and if they care enough about their sport to travel abroad to take part in it, those customers deserve support.

The question to which I replied was "I wonder if the magazines or amta would add weight to the cause?"

So what are the magazines going to do about it? I suspect maybe a little moan in an editorial which I can't really see Easyjet's Executives reading.

The rifles being taken abroad are pretty well all produced abroad too. In any given competition, how many Brits will be taking British made rifles, I wonder? Will the Austrians be concerned about the contingent not making it?
You are right, I do struggle to believe your assertions that the trade cares about its customers.

[Parabuteo]

Simply because there is nothing in it for them. Why would they give a flying fig that airguns bought in the UK could not be taken abroad?

Well I would have thought that this was obvious.

It can really boost the profile of a company/marque if the rifle is shot in a winning (or national) team.

In the full bore comp world you often hear "I would have one if I knew of anyone doing well with one", shooters are often a bit like sheep. They don't like to change or try something different.

When a certain person won the world F/TR champs with Berger 155.5s and H4895 they flew off the shelves.

Positive PR sells so yes, I would think that alone would be incentive. As well as the fact that it is their livelihood they are looking after ultimately.

[RobF]

Why would you say that?

Those shooters represent various manufacturers, do they not? So why would the manufacturers not be keen to help resolve this?

For the record, there will be a meeting on this subject at the Game Fair this weekend, when our legal advisors will be consulted.

Good stuff Terry.

If you need the contact details I have, let me know.

[Terry D]

Good stuff Terry.

If you need the contact details I have, let me know.

Thanks, Rob. Any and all contacts / info is welcome, mate, and if you email it to me at terry.doe@archant.co.uk I'll see it gets to the proper people.

Regards.

[RobF]

Thanks, Rob. Any and all contacts / info is welcome, mate, and if you email it to me at terry.doe@archant.co.uk I'll see it gets to the proper people.

Regards.

Check your inbox Anna's details are on the bottom of that. She's been pretty responsive and said she should come back with some sort of statement by the end of the week for publication.

[timmaaah]

It's not that they are refusing air rifles. They are refusing non fac air rifles. Fac rifles and firearms they are happy to carry. Indeed they have carried non fav before for me several times.

Thanks for the contact details.

So basically they have decided not to carry non-fac airguns? That's their prerogative. They could insist that anyone flying with them has to wear a mankini if they so wanted - suck it up and move on I'm afraid.

[RobF]

So basically they have decided not to carry non-fac airguns? That's their prerogative. They could insist that anyone flying with them has to wear a mankini if they so wanted - suck it up and move on I'm afraid.

No they haven't. They are perfectly happy to carry them, as specified in their terms and conditions. They however want official documentation to support their ownership.

[512k]

No they haven't. They are perfectly happy to carry them, as specified in their terms and conditions. They however want official documentation to support their ownership.

Like a Scottish Airgun Licence, for example?

*runs away*

[Rich]

No they haven't. They are perfectly happy to carry them, as specified in their terms and conditions. They however want official documentation to support their ownership.

.... and "we" don't want licensing and HMG says we can't have an EFP unless we have a licence, and they won't put sub12s on ticket anyway. It's all a bit circular.

I've heard of catch 22, maybe this is also catch 177.