I picked up a cheap one some years ago, Same time as I bought my fx verminator, The bsa cost me £40 from a chap in Swansea, With the difference in price of the two guns it's was a little gutting to find it was grouping better than the fx, Out of all the guns I've had over the years the I would say the ones that have been noticeably better was the daystate mk3, Hw77 and the bsa superstar.