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    bsa.centenary .22.

    Well said sir i agree.
    Ihave said before i have a .25 Stutzen rb2 mint in orig. carton with all its bits and pieces i have been offered £1000. for it but would not sell,the wife would only spend the cash on something useful. What i have got also is a boxed B.S.A. CENTENARY .22 minty condition with all its bits and pieces gun bag with handles and boxed, scope and mounts never fitted to gun. Would consider £1050.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Well said sir i agree.
    Ihave said before i have a .25 Stutzen rb2 mint in orig. carton with all its bits and pieces i have been offered £1000. for it but would not sell,the wife would only spend the cash on something useful. What i have got also is a boxed B.S.A. CENTENARY .22 minty condition with all its bits and pieces gun bag with handles and boxed, scope and mounts never fitted to gun. Would consider £1050.

    £1,000 for a .25 Stutzen which you say you turned down, and £1,050 for a complete Centenary kit in .22 (minty or not)? ... I've been on the collecting scene for a very long time, visit most of the collecting forums, regularly monitor ALL the leading Air Gun and aligned auctions on line, and imho, with reference to you potentially achieving those figures I have to say hmmmm, good luck with that (lol).


    Ps. Ref the opening Q on this thread, I sold a near mint BSA 635 Magnum in .25 for £350 plus post late last year, and it took some serious advertising across the internet / gun press to realise this price, so there I believe is your realistic value -- give or take a few shekels (and plus post if not F2F ) ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
    £1,000 for a .25 Stutzen which you say you turned down, and £1,050 for a complete Centenary kit in .22 (minty or not)? ... I've been on the collecting scene for a very long time, visit most of the collecting forums, regularly monitor ALL the leading Air Gun and aligned auctions on line, and imho, with reference to you potentially achieving those figures I have to say hmmmm, good luck with that (lol).


    Ps. Ref the opening Q on this thread, I sold a near mint BSA 635 Magnum in .25 for £350 plus post late last year, and it took some serious advertising across the internet / gun press to realise this price, so there I believe is your realistic value -- give or take a few shekels (and plus post if not F2F ) ...

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    Well you must accept that these rarest classic British airguns are increasing in value as we speak . Only 1000 of the Centenary , only 100 - possibly less of , the .25 Stutzen - and most to export at that .
    Even Protek had a bog standard .22 tap loader Stutzen at what seemed to me to be an ott price of over £580 ....it was gone the next day .
    One member here offered me his Stutzen .25 for £650 .
    One on that Free ads you obviously missed in your regular monitoring went for near £600 what looked like only 'good' condition and bought by a member
    here .
    A Centenary - no interest to me but people do pay up if all bits there .
    For years these were underrated and sold off cheap , and no surprise that today that people are rediscovering them .
    Mind even a 635 in minty condition - you did 'okay' to well at £350 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimny4x4 View Post
    Well you must accept that these rarest classic British airguns are increasing in value as we speak . Only 1000 of the Centenary , only 100 - possibly less of , the .25 Stutzen - and most to export at that .
    Even Protek had a bog standard .22 tap loader Stutzen at what seemed to me to be an ott price of over £580 ....it was gone the next day .
    One member here offered me his Stutzen .25 for £650 .
    One on that Free ads you obviously missed in your regular monitoring went for near £600 what looked like only 'good' condition and bought by a member
    here .
    A Centenary - no interest to me but people do pay up if all bits there .
    For years these were underrated and sold off cheap , and no surprise that today that people are rediscovering them .
    Mind even a 635 in minty condition - you did 'okay' to well at £350 .
    Uhh? ... Nahh, can't be bothered, as with your arguments, personally interpreted observations ( ), and mis-readings ( sold a 635 for £350, not bought ) it'd be too easy ( shooting fish in a barrel springs to mind ), so I'm going back to me BBQ, and I'll leave you to your Bank Holiday stew lol. Bye bye.
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    As always with these things - a thing is worth what the purchaser is willing to pay and the seller is willing to accept - nothing more or less!

    I have a Centenary and an even rarer (I believe) Carbine deluxe - their value to me is far more than their worth or whatever someone is prepared to pay (realistically) so I guess I will be custodian for a while! (I hope)

    Wouldn't mind a .25 Airsporter sometime though!

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    Good take on it Airsporterman and well proffered.

    I too have a few offerings in my modest collection that are worth more to me than their realistic re-sale value, and similarly, I have a couple of air guns that -- with hind sight -- I seriously over paid for because I really wanted them, so yep, purchase prices can be subjective, I agree, and like you, I've a few items that I am likely to be custodian of, by default, for many years to come, too (love the phrase custodian for what we do ).

    Regarding my last post, then, don't mind me, as I was just being a bit of a wind-up by adopting the mantle of Devil's Advocate (couldn't resist a bit of Bank Holiday fishing lol ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
    Good take on it Airsporterman and well proffered.

    I too have a few offerings in my modest collection that are worth more to me than their realistic re-sale value, and similarly, I have a couple of air guns that -- with hind sight -- I seriously over paid for because I really wanted them, so yep, purchase prices can be subjective, I agree, and like you, I've a few items that I am likely to be custodian of, by default, for many years to come, too (love the phrase custodian for what we do ).

    Regarding my last post, then, don't mind me, as I was just being a bit of a wind-up by adopting the mantle of Devil's Advocate (couldn't resist a bit of Bank Holiday fishing lol ).
    Mind you 'Airsporteritis' can lower ones guard as I believe you are well aware Gareth!
    We had our first Bbq this year today - delicious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth W-B View Post
    Uhh? ... Nahh, can't be bothered, as with your arguments, personally interpreted observations ( ), and mis-readings ( sold a 635 for £350, not bought ) it'd be too easy ( shooting fish in a barrel springs to mind ), so I'm going back to me BBQ, and I'll leave you to your Bank Holiday stew lol. Bye bye.
    An interesting response ?
    There was no argument intended .
    Observations based on experience - will always differ .
    It seems intelligent debate is not allowed .
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    With reference to doubting Gareth the RB2 .25 in question with serial number 1001 is the second one made ser no.1000 the first which i was told by a man from B.S.A. they always keep the first production model for them selves so i have the first .25 stutzen sold any where. A local R.F.D. friend of mine wants it for his private collection, so if i ever do sell it he gets first bite at the bit and i know if i pushed him he would pay a bit more. So to coin a phrase you have not seen it all mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    With reference to doubting Gareth the RB2 .25 in question with serial number 1001 is the second one made ser no.1000 the first which i was told by a man from B.S.A. they always keep the first production model for them selves so i have the first .25 stutzen sold any where. A local R.F.D. friend of mine wants it for his private collection, so if i ever do sell it he gets first bite at the bit and i know if i pushed him he would pay a bit more. So to coin a phrase you have not seen it all mate.
    Then here I am most happy to stand totally corrected and substitute my BBQ food for a slice of humble pie, as armed with the background info particular to your RB2 .25 Stutzen, I can see where -- and how -- that potential sale price fits the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimny4x4 View Post

    An interesting response ?
    There was no argument intended .
    Observations based on experience - will always differ .
    It seems intelligent debate is not allowed .
    ... Nahh, still can't be bothered lol.
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