Tanfoglio Witness 1911

[blooregard]

That's a Colt Commander rather than a 1911 A1 I believe - more common in .38 than .45ACP.

Used to have a 1911 in the 80's which is why I find these replicas sooooo disappointing.

Interesting, I've never owned one but I am familiar with it. Why do you find them so disappointing?

[Vulcanator]

When you've owned the real McCoy, the imitation falls short. Though the Tanfoglio pistol appears to be a well made replica.

[blooregard]

I can understand that. I now actually find the CO2 guns as much fun, and you can shoot them in your garden.

[beagle2]

When you've owned the real McCoy, the imitation falls short. Though the Tanfoglio pistol appears to be a well made replica.

Obviously something costing £80 is not going to be as good quality as the real thing costing £500 or much more if you want a custom one.

The thing about these guns is unless you live in the wilds of America or somewhere similar you would have to go to a firing range that could be miles away to use it.

With one of these is you have a garden you can just go out the back door and shoot away to your harts content apart from that in this country this is as good as it gets.

[Vulcanator]

I understand your points entirely. It's a shame the handgun ban has killed the opportunity to own this fine pistol. I remember fondly shooting mine at the Chelmsford (1944) rifle club in the 80's.

[Minuteman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHw8R...eature=related

Would love the real thing too

[Vulcanator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHw8R...eature=related

Would love the real thing too

My 1911 I had back in the UK was an unissued WW2 Colt. Purchased from the Wiltshire Shooting Centre for 325 quid!

[Jim McArthur]

The thing about these guns is unless you live in the wilds of America or somewhere similar you would have to go to a firing range that could be miles away to use it.

With one of these is you have a garden you can just go out the back door and shoot away to your harts content

I live in urban America, I shoot airguns, and that's why.

That and the cost of cartridge ammo.

Jim

[pablowatercolor]

Interesting, I've never owned one but I am familiar with it. Why do you find them so disappointing?

The real thing is actually heavier when fully loaded (although it gets lighter as you shoot it heh heh... )

It's the whole thing - Seven rounds in the mag, jack one into the chamber, lock the slide, eject the mag and load an extra round to give you eight shots - that's what they mean by 'locked and loaded'. There is nothing to match the a heavy twisting recoil, muzzle flash, noise and smell, not to mention the occasional hot case down your neck (or scrabbling about for your spent boxer primed cases... )

Look up Massad Ayoob on YouTube if you want to see some real hangun action and see what I mean - he wrote 'In the Gravest Extreme'.

On a sensory level, the CO2 replica is simply underwhelming by comparison.

[blooregard]

The real thing is actually heavier when fully loaded (although it gets lighter as you shoot it heh heh... )

It's the whole thing - Seven rounds in the mag, jack one into the chamber, lock the slide, eject the mag and load an extra round to give you eight shots - that's what they mean by 'locked and loaded'. There is nothing to match the a heavy twisting recoil, muzzle flash, noise and smell, not to mention the occasional hot case down your neck (or scrabbling about for your spent boxer primed cases... )

Look up Massad Ayoob on YouTube if you want to see some real hangun action and see what I mean - he wrote 'In the Gravest Extreme'.

On a sensory level, the CO2 replica is simply underwhelming by comparison.

Oh yes, remember it well, but I don't buy a CO2 replica expecting the same experience. It is however as close as you can legally get and allows you to shoot loads and loads cheaply and safely in your own garden which is awesome. I miss the smell and ejecting brass is undoubtedly really cool but a classicly styled automatic pistol with a couple of thousand rounds of ammo and gas is excellent for under a hundred quid.

I fully understand your points, but I recommend you give one a try if you get the chance, they are fantastic fun.

I always thought "Locked and Loaded" refered to a muzzle loader with a charged barrel and the action at half cock. What you describe is condition one, safety applied, a chambered round and a full magazine in place.

[Rayee]

The real thing is actually heavier when fully loaded (although it gets lighter as you shoot it heh heh... )

It's the whole thing - Seven rounds in the mag, jack one into the chamber, lock the slide, eject the mag and load an extra round to give you eight shots - that's what they mean by 'locked and loaded'. There is nothing to match the a heavy twisting recoil, muzzle flash, noise and smell, not to mention the occasional hot case down your neck (or scrabbling about for your spent boxer primed cases... )

Look up Massad Ayoob on YouTube if you want to see some real hangun action and see what I mean - he wrote 'In the Gravest Extreme'.

On a sensory level, the CO2 replica is simply underwhelming by comparison.

So shooting a real firearm is more of an event than a bb gun! next you'll be telling us the bullets go further!

[harvey_s]

Mind you at least lead usually only goes one way...
BB's have an amusing habit of 'returning to sender'

[whitevanman574]

Mind you at least lead usually only goes one way...
BB's have an amusing habit of 'returning to sender'

depends if you have a pellet catcher with a t shirt in


even re use the bbs