Crossman trapmaster co2 shotgun

[coburn]

As you may know Mick “Mick’s guns” is an RFD he knows what he’s talking about he also wouldn’t sell one without if needed

This was take from another thread


Originally Posted by Geezer
According to the interweb, the Crosman Trapmaster 1100, loaded with a single projectile, makes anything from 23 to 40+ ft/lbs, so definitely FAC territory.

As the Trapmaster is a smooth bore, it could easily go on a shotgun cert, not an FAC, if it needed too!

These were being sold by a dealer at Kempton recently off ticket.

[--ped--]

i've been offered a few over the years and i've always classed them as too grey to take the risk without a ticket
i am tempted to re barrel one i've been offered with a .22 or .177 so it still takes a plastic shell or make some brass carts like the umarex saa

[harvey_s]

Given that it's fairly common knowledge that these produce comfortably in excess of 12 ft/lbs and any argument over measuring single or multiple projectiles is moot as the Trapmasters had solid ball ammo as a factory option (thus ticking the 'capable' box)...I'd suggest in this case Mick is talking out of his arse, RFD or not.

[Lee5159]

I'd suggest in this case Mick is talking out of his arse, RFD or not.

I take it you think the other sellers at kempton who was selling trapmasters without ticket are talking out of there arse as well?

[harvey_s]

I take it you think the other sellers at kempton who was selling trapmasters without ticket are talking out of there arse as well?

What has the location got to do with legality?
Do you have any evidence over 12 ft/lb airguns are legal then? If so, please show me the exclusion... I'm genuinely interested.

[Geezer]

With its original factory load of small shot, it makes 17ft-lbs for the whole load (but not for any individual pellet, obviously).

Unmodified, with a single projectile of 9mm diameter, it makes 23 or so ft-lbs.

Modified, same goes of course for any CO2/PCP gun, up to 40.

It is a smoothbore.

It has a 28” barrel.

Study the the rules on low-power airguns, S2 shotguns, S1 guns.

Then draw your own conclusions.

Mine is that I would rather not own one off ticket.

[harvey_s]

Exactly, and I'd have thought that ANY dealer selling one off ticket was highly irresponsible and potentially breaking the law.

[Garvin]

I have some dust shot .22 projectiles somewhere and have used them in my sub-12lbs FWB Sport in the distant past, even though if I added up the ME of each tiny ball, it may come to over 12 ft/lbs. The dust shot is so obviously less potentially harmful than a single pellet that I have complete confidence that nobody would ever suggest they rendered the rifle illegal.

[springfieldm6]

As the Trapmaster is a smooth bore, it could easily go on a shotgun cert, not an FAC, if it needed too!

These were being sold by a dealer at Kempton recently off ticket.

At least this one is easy to answer (from Firearms act ‘68):

3)This section applies to every firearm except—

[F1(a)a shot gun within the meaning of this Act, that is to say a smooth-bore gun (not being an air gun), etc…