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    See also the scope description, 'three-by-nine-by-forty'.
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    12psi
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    ...and anything in text speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snock View Post
    12psi
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    12 pounds of pressure

    ...and anything in text speak.

    12 FPE seems to be used a lot . I always saw it written as 12 ft/lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    12 FPE seems to be used a lot . I always saw it written as 12 ft/lbs
    I used to use that but have moved to 12ft-lbs as apparently that’s better.

    Despite Brexit, I suspect moving to Joules would be easier.

    I too get a bit OCD about this stuff. I think I have bored members before about various of my linguistic OCD things.

    It’s not a foresight, it’s a front sight. That kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    I used to use that but have moved to 12ft-lbs as apparently that’s better.

    Despite Brexit, I suspect moving to Joules would be easier.

    I too get a bit OCD about this stuff. I think I have bored members before about various of my linguistic OCD things.

    It’s not a foresight, it’s a front sight. That kind of thing.
    I do hope that no one mentions "should of" then

    It's my pet hate!!!!

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    It’s not a telescopic sight. It’s possibly a telescope sight. It’s definitely an optical sight. Or a glass sight. Unless it is rubbish and has plastic lenses.

    Open sights do not include aperture sights, because they are closed.

    Sigh. Here I go again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    It’s not a telescopic sight. It’s possibly a telescope sight. It’s definitely an optical sight. Or a glass sight. Unless it is rubbish and has plastic lenses.

    Open sights do not include aperture sights, because they are closed.

    Sigh. Here I go again.
    It IS a 'telescope sight', and it is a graticule, not a reticule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandadG View Post
    I do hope that no one mentions "should of" then

    It's my pet hate!!!!
    I second that!!
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    I have a thing for handbags...

    RETICULE - a woman's small handbag, typically having a drawstring and decorated with embroidery or beading.

    RETICLE - a pattern of fine lines or markings built into the eyepiece of a sighting device.

    Although somewhat interchangable the correct word in English is I believe GRATICULE.....sounds so much nicer
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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    12 FPE seems to be used a lot . I always saw it written as 12 ft/lbs
    See... Now I've often wondered about this.... I wonder if. FPE as an abbreviation of "Foot Pound Energy" is in actual fact correct. Just taken this from a site on the net:

    "Lb is an abbreviation of the Latin word libra. The primary meaning of libra was balance or scales (as in the astrological sign), but it also stood for the ancient Roman unit of measure libra pondo, meaning “a pound by weight.”

    The operative word being "pound" in weight... Now although "libra Pondo" or "libra" itself is written as "lb" and "lbs" being plural, I don't see saying foot pounds energy "fpe" as being wrong.... Just different. Infact "fpe" is closer I think as although we call pounds lbs, lbs is actually an abbreviation for libra which is only half the wording.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhyslightnin View Post
    See... Now I've often wondered about this.... I wonder if. FPE as an abbreviation of "Foot Pound Energy" is in actual fact correct. Just taken this from a site on the net:

    "Lb is an abbreviation of the Latin word libra. The primary meaning of libra was balance or scales (as in the astrological sign), but it also stood for the ancient Roman unit of measure libra pondo, meaning “a pound by weight.”

    The operative word being "pound" in weight... Now although "libra Pondo" or "libra" itself is written as "lb" and "lbs" being plural, I don't see saying foot pounds energy "fpe" as being wrong.... Just different. Infact "fpe" is closer I think as although we call pounds lbs, lbs is actually an abbreviation for libra which is only half the wording.
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    The unit of energy is expressed as a force of 1 pound moving 1 foot and the unit is therefore feet multiplied by pounds.
    That is "foot pounds" with or without a space
    abbreviated to ft lb or ftlb
    Same as a times b is "a b" or "ab"
    No hyphen, and definitely no forward slash ft/lb which is feet divided by pounds.

    fpe is just plain bxllxcks, abbreviating an abbreviation .

    edit: Just to be even more pedantic 12 ftlb is a measure of energy and not power. (nobody on this thread made that mistake but plenty of learned sites have)
    Power is the rate of producing or using energy eg ftlb/h so to double the power of a rifle just shoot twice as many pellets per hour!
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    My pet hate? What grates me more than sand in the grunts?

    People who should know better that carry their rifle outfits in zipped bags over their shoulder with the opening at the bottom. If the zip fails the rifles falls out. If they hold it the other way there is less stress on the zip and if it does fail the rifle falls into the reinforcing at the bottom of the bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    My pet hate? What grates me more than sand in the grunts?

    People who should know better that carry their rifle outfits in zipped bags over their shoulder with the opening at the bottom. If the zip fails the rifles falls out. If they hold it the other way there is less stress on the zip and if it does fail the rifle falls into the reinforcing at the bottom of the bag.
    Most bags I've had with zips tend to have the flap you slide the but into so if zip goes it can't really fall out but I take your point
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    Quote Originally Posted by snock View Post
    12psi
    12fpe
    12 pounds of pressure

    ...and anything in text speak.
    I use FPE cos it's accurate and easier. I should of (eh Graham?) switched to Joules by now, perhaps I will.
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