Pond Plinking?

[dersbum]

Can you link to where that's stated please.

I'm wondering if the same laws that prohibit the use of lead weights for freshwater fishing might also prohibit shooting lead into or across water,
I've deffo read that you shouldn't shoot across water but I can't remember where at the moment.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/2170/made

https://www.gov.uk/freshwater-rod-fi...er%201%20ounce.

[Muskett]

When Lead pipes were put in by the Victorians, many went straight to the pond/water pump. There is loads of agricultural lead piping about in fields, though most dug up for the scrap. They didn't know better. A load of farm ponds were filled in and might well include a few Lead batteries.

I think the legislation is either about fishing and Lead Shot, or about shooting wildfowl over wetlands.

You might get ricochets if you can get low enough an angle. Certainly a .22LR will.
The threat to wildlife or birdlife is slim. A .177 is a bit too big as bird grit! Wild ducks rarely live long enough to be effected by any Lead poisoning. The Lead would need to be highly concentrated and it would take exceptional circumstances for it to happen. Plenty of clay grounds have ponds where Lead concentrations are probably a tad too high; but can be sorted when dredged. Ask the Dutch as they reversed anti Lead legislation on shooting over water/in general. Plenty of daft science on the subject from Cambridge University!

Just watch the ripples for wind calls.

[missiles]

Lead split shot of the same weight of all non FAC pellets have been banned from fishing since 1987. Lead weights for fishing need to be 1oz or over to be legal. This is to protect swans, ducks etc. On this basis, it isn't really acceptable to shoot .177 or. 22 pellets into a pond.
Just a bit of information from a fisherman to assist in your decision.

[rapidresponse1]

just be carefull bud

[Bayman]

When Lead pipes were put in by the Victorians, many went straight to the pond/water pump. There is loads of agricultural lead piping about in fields, though most dug up for the scrap. They didn't know better. A load of farm ponds were filled in and might well include a few Lead batteries.

I think the legislation is either about fishing and Lead Shot, or about shooting wildfowl over wetlands.

You might get ricochets if you can get low enough an angle. Certainly a .22LR will.
The threat to wildlife or birdlife is slim. A .177 is a bit too big as bird grit! Wild ducks rarely live long enough to be effected by any Lead poisoning. The Lead would need to be highly concentrated and it would take exceptional circumstances for it to happen. Plenty of clay grounds have ponds where Lead concentrations are probably a tad too high; but can be sorted when dredged. Ask the Dutch as they reversed anti Lead legislation on shooting over water/in general. Plenty of daft science on the subject from Cambridge University!

Just watch the ripples for wind calls.

This guy has it right. Lead toxicity is greatly exaggerated. Mostly for political and capitalistic purposes. If lead was so toxic, millions of people would have chronic health issues. For probably a hundred years untold millions of people have been drinking water from copper pipes soldered with lead solder. Before that it was lead pipes.

Just shoot and have fun. Nobody or anything is gonna suffer unless you hit them directly with the pellet. The pellets will ricochet at shallow angles but will keep a similar direction and angle at touchdown. Sometimes it's fun to see how many times you can skip a pellet before hitting a floating target. The RAF excelled at this in WWII with their Dambusters. The US also used skip bombing on a lot of shipping targets in the Pacific theater.

Anyway, don't listen to paranoid people sold on globalist junk science. Just use common sense and have fun.

[angrybear]

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999/2170/made

https://www.gov.uk/freshwater-rod-fi...er%201%20ounce.

As stated in the notes at the bottom of the first linked page, (copied below) these are the rules for wildfowling with a shotgun below the High water mark, and as such have nothing to do with air guns
the angling rules might be more relevant as air gun pellets would all be inside the prohibited weight range.

I still can't find the thing I read, but I only stumbled across it by accident, until I read it I had no idea there was any issue.

EXPLANATORY NOTE
(This note is not part of the Regulations)

These Regulations (“the Regulations”), which apply to England only, prohibit the use of lead shot for shooting with a shot gun–

(a)on or over any area below the high-water mark;
(b)on or over the sites of special scientific interest included in Schedule 1 to the Regulations;
(c)any wild bird included in Schedule 2 to the Regulations. These birds are ducks, geese and swans (all species of each); coot; moorhen; golden plover and common snipe (regulation 3).
“Lead shot” means any shot made of lead or of any alloy or compound of lead where lead comprises more than 1% of that alloy or compound (regulation 2).