Proposed New Scoring for MPL 2013.

[zooma]

Hi Kandras - You are welcome to do this if you would like to do so.......but it will only record historical information, and we can see strong progress from the kickers recently which will make an element of your research a bit dated as the kickers never started anything like as well as they are going now.

With or without your historical analysis I think we still need to look forward with the benefit of what we can see happening now.

At the moment +4 points per card ( +16 points per round) may seem a but high - mainly due to the progress the kicker shooters have made very recently - but if we want to keep things as they are now the +4 bonus should do this.

If we look at the last two rounds scores, maybe +3 would be a better guess ( +12 points per round) - but we don't want to discourage the kickers in any way so maybe one change at a time is enough so I suggest that we stick with the proposal and take a look at it again in June and see how good our guesswork has been.

My guess is that we won't see much in the way of change - and there not too much wrong with that!

[karandras]

Hi Kandras - You are welcome to do this if you would like to do so.......but it will only record historical information, and we can see strong progress from the kickers recently which will make an element of your research a bit dated as the kickers never started anything like as well as they are going now.

With or without your historical analysis I think we still need to look forward with the benefit of what we can see happening now.

At the moment +4 points per card ( +16 points per round) may seem a but high - mainly due to the progress the kicker shooters have made very recently - but if we want to keep things as they are now the +4 bonus should do this.

If we look at the last two rounds scores, maybe +3 would be a better guess ( +12 points per round) - but we don't want to discourage the kickers in any way so maybe one change at a time is enough so I suggest that we stick with the proposal and take a look at it again in June and see how good our guesswork has been.

My guess is that we won't see much in the way of change - and there not too much wrong with that!

I'm happy to proceed with the +4 bonus, my suggestion was purely to enable people to see exactly how the new rules would affect the scores and if a bonus of +4 was over the top.

Personally as the SSP's could now be gaining up to 5 extra points per card, the +4 seems fine to me.

If you can ask geoff to bring the cards on tuesday night i'll do it anyway and add in novembers when they are done.

Cheers,

Andi

[zooma]

Thanks Andi - all offers of help are greatfully accepted.

It could be very interesting.

[Nocity]

God loves a Trier, Bob

I’m still of the opinion that 16 point for a Springer is too many. All this SSP could still be gaining 5 extra points just does not wash, you have the same odds as losing 12 points. Inward scoring ok, 16 points start, not for me.

[zooma]

God loves a Trier, Bob

I’m still of the opinion that 16 point for a Springer is too many. All this SSP could still be gaining 5 extra points just does not wash, you have the same odds as losing 12 points. Inward scoring ok, 16 points start, not for me.

I agree with your sentiments - especially the first one about "God loves a Trier" and also have some concerns about the 4 points per card too - but not enough to stop us giving it a go in the next 6 month MPL season.

The reasons for this are many and although this will keep the situtaion more or less as it is now, it may also shade the difference back slightly as it would have been possible (in theory at least) to actually gain up to 6 points per card using the old system, wheras with this new scoring system the maximum possible gain can only be 4 points!

In real life, I am not expecting it to make much difference to what we have now, but any freak top end scores can only ever gain 4 points and not 6 as they can now.

At the end of June we should look at it again, and with the new scoring system it will be much easier to make any adjustments (if they are needed) - and these don't have to be as big a change as a whole point either, so we can in future fine tune it much better than we can now with the old system - for example if we were to have a 3.5 point kicker bonus per card this would reduce the 4 card bonus to 14 from 16, and a 3.25 bonus would reduce it to 13, and a 3 point bonus would make it 12 points and so on.

The new scoring system has a lot going for it and i think we should definately introduce it in January and start it with the +4 points per card and see how it shakes down by the end of June.

[Fat stig]

Just a simple point to anyone who thinks +4 is to much of an advantage, springer's are quite cheap feel free to go and buy one as most of us seem to be doing. Problem solved.

[I. J.]

Just a simple point to anyone who thinks +4 is to much of an advantage, springer's are quite cheap feel free to go and buy one as most of us seem to be doing. Problem solved.

No, thats when your problems start!

ATB
Ian

[zooma]

Just a simple point to anyone who thinks +4 is to much of an advantage, springer's are quite cheap feel free to go and buy one as most of us seem to be doing. Problem solved.

The whole idea of the MPL is to provide a competition for the classic and inexpensive spring powered and SSP pistols that give everyone a fair chance - with or without a recoiless pistol.

This is a very competetive and good series that not only give's the best competition at an affordable price - but also the best banter - which to some of us is even more important!

If at the end of June 2013 (when the second MPL series is completed) we find that all the kickers are running away with it, or the opposite, that they become so disadvantaged they become uncompetetive (and it discourages anyone from using them), then it will be easy to tweak the bonus points either way in time for the third MPL series from July to December 2013......and so on.

Not having a crystal ball is clearly a major disadvantage for me, but we have not done too badly this season and got things about right, and I rather expect we will be just as lucky again next season - but we will have made the scoring a lot easier for everyone to understand.

[Nocity]

Just a simple point to anyone who thinks +4 is to much of an advantage, springer's are quite cheap feel free to go and buy one as most of us seem to be doing. Problem solved.

Suggest, that you may be as well, keeping your simple points to yourself.