I can remember buying one brand new in the late 80s for the sum of £36 I remember another member on here "wayne-q" lending me some extra money to get one so I we could still go for a pint that night "it was a Saturday" im sure there was no name on it other than Hungary on the breach block I shot loads with that gun back in the day they had Relum jelly telly on the box the bluing seemed super back in the day --but after a strip and clean and re-lube it shot great and possible very close to 12lb or it might have being over "no chrono back then" ---I remember one lad having the tornado and his father saying your better off strapping a pen knife to the end like a bayonet and stabbing the rats