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    Quote Originally Posted by mrto View Post
    We're not allowed to have the fully fun version,though!
    Of course not
    But I enjoy my UK version.

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    Very interested in the SMLE, as the No4 is something I have used a lot, and I owned a WWA/S&P air cartridge conversion back when you could (great fun, but also rubbish, it's saving grace being that it was a de-act that shot).

    But, really, £400? For a plinker? I'm not saying I wouldn't, but £400 buys you a lot of "proper air rifle". Or a slightly dodgy used car.

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    About bloody time they brought out a British rifle, I'll be keeping an eye out for one of these, let's hope they bring out a STEN next

    Pete
    Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in

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    Good grief, I paid nearly that for my fully working .303 version!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightning22 View Post

    Good grief, I paid nearly that for my fully working .303 version!
    Ditto -- and I paid nearly the same for my original 1916 example with deact cert, too, which can be owned off F.A.C. (and I know which two of the three versions I would rather own ) ...
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    They are low powered bb guns.

    And as such I would expect poor accuracy.

    The full length Nagant doesn't even have a full length barrel, I am told.

    For 400 quid they could at least have produced something with a rifled barrel and revolving pellet magazine?
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    Yes, like the Umarex Walther Winchester.

    Guessing here, but are the Mosin (etc) variants of a 6mm plastic ball airsoft gun? That would explain a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Yes, like the Umarex Walther Winchester.

    Guessing here, but are the Mosin (etc) variants of a 6mm plastic ball airsoft gun? That would explain a lot.
    Good suggestion and despite the cloud of little or no information on the Net , suspect totally correct .
    I was going to buy the Mosin , sold here by the same outfit as allegedly importing the item in question , and elsewhere ( here also but mainly US ) under the Gletcher brand - but - again ZERO info .
    By that I mean real info - original manufacturer , spares parts listing .
    Nada , zilch .
    Only what Gletcher want you to read , and as for here in UK nowt at all .

    Am I going to splash out £400 odd on a low power Co2 bb gun - possibly - but I like to know a bit about things to help make my mind up
    Somewhere I heard that the customer comes first ...not in gun sales .
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    Quote Originally Posted by look no hands View Post
    About bloody time they brought out a British rifle, I'll be keeping an eye out for one of these, let's hope they bring out a STEN next

    Pete
    Scottish Lee grew up in Canada and lived most of his life in the US. The Lee-Enfield is as British as a Dagenham Ford. Or a Soton Transit, except the b'stards closed the plant ...
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    I have recently spoken to one of the men behind this exiting rifle and offered them space to launch it at the Kempton Classic Arms Fair on October 15th, but it seems they may not be totally up to speed by then. I am told that they are being put through their paces and undergoing strict quality control.
    With any luck they will be on a stand by our March 25th Fair.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Scottish Lee grew up in Canada and lived most of his life in the US. The Lee-Enfield is as British as a Dagenham Ford. Or a Soton Transit, except the b'stards closed the plant ...
    I'm not really worried who designed it, we've had a Russian and couple of German weapons out for a while, so it's nice to see one of ours produced.

    Pete
    Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in

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    I don't care where , and I don't care who ( well it would be nice )

    Sometimes the Internet does surprise me - and has it uses .
    BINGO thats the Mosin and as expected made in Far East .
    That doesn't bother me in the slightest but is nice to know where made - who made is a priority .
    As collectors , how can we enjoy using /owning a gun , that we don't know anything about !
    You would'nt tolerate it if it was a Webley , so ...
    A BIG thanks to identifying Listone et all !
    Lets sit back and hope this UK outfit can indeed get these in and out for sale .

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingernut View Post
    Of course not
    But I enjoy my UK version.


    Do you know what fps you're getting from your MP40?

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    [QUOTE=mrto;7339003]Do you know what fps you're getting from your MP40?[/QUOTE

    I don't.

    It's a question of taking it to the range when my mate has his chrono there.
    Rarely coincide and I'm more interested in testing stuff that needs to be under 12 ft lbs.

    Same with 7 1/2 Peacemakers that I still haven't done!

    The MP 40 is adequate in my opinion.

    Whereas the Mosin isn't.

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    [QUOTE=gingernut;7339784]
    Quote Originally Posted by mrto View Post
    Do you know what fps you're getting from your MP40?[/QUOTE

    I don't.

    It's a question of taking it to the range when my mate has his chrono there.
    Rarely coincide and I'm more interested in testing stuff that needs to be under 12 ft lbs.

    Same with 7 1/2 Peacemakers that I still haven't done!

    The MP 40 is adequate in my opinion.

    Whereas the Mosin isn't.
    Seems if most steel bb weigh 5gr to 5.4gr then the Umarex website claims 140m/sec .
    Using an online calculator that gives 2.3- 2.5ft/lb
    Doesn't sound great but wouldn't want to get hit in the a**** with a mag full

    added :
    Tried to see online what the fps is for the Nagant - none showing on those web pages I found but see the shorty Trench Gun Nagant does 427fps accordig to Pyramidair so using their calc thats5.4gr = 2.19 ft/lb
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