best pump up rifle

[--ped--]

I have quite a few
crosmans
101
102
105
130's both US and Can
140's both US and Can in 4th variant and a 3rd variant
3 or 4 2200's inc firstmodel
2100
model 1
760
761xl
761whaley
numerous 766's 1st and 2nd models
numerous 1300's
numerous 1377/22's
2289 back packer
numerous 1389 backpackers
benjamins
177 pistol
312
2 347's
sheridans
64 c
67 c
81 c
85-88 c
2nd model c9a
3rd model c9a
couple of bam b45-3's
parkerhale dragon
jb1
setra as1000
xs 78 based pumper
couple of aces
a few innovas
rebel
daisy 822
daisy 922
maybe a few more as I can't remember 100% what I have

[jirushi]

I have quite a few
crosmans
101
102
105
130's both US and Can
140's both US and Can in 4th variant and a 3rd variant
3 or 4 2200's inc firstmodel
2100
model 1
760
761xl
761whaley
numerous 766's 1st and 2nd models
numerous 1300's
numerous 1377/22's
2289 back packer
numerous 1389 backpackers
benjamins
177 pistol
312
2 347's
sheridans
64 c
67 c
81 c
85-88 c
2nd model c9a
3rd model c9a
couple of bam b45-3's
parkerhale dragon
jb1
setra as1000
xs 78 based pumper
couple of aces
a few innovas
rebel
daisy 822
daisy 922
maybe a few more as I can't remember 100% what I have

Wow that's an amazing collection

[--ped--]

I forget what I have Louis I've seen a crosman 100 in the US that I may make an offer on -if it's still there but it was a leaker and even at mates rates is still a bit spendy
that's a nice looking late c series you have

[mdunn]

think its safe to say, you like crosmans ped. atb mick

[T 20]

I have quite a few
crosmans
101
102
105
130's both US and Can
140's both US and Can in 4th variant and a 3rd variant
3 or 4 2200's inc firstmodel
2100
model 1
760
761xl
761whaley
numerous 766's 1st and 2nd models
numerous 1300's
numerous 1377/22's
2289 back packer
numerous 1389 backpackers
benjamins
177 pistol
312
2 347's
sheridans
64 c
67 c
81 c
85-88 c
2nd model c9a
3rd model c9a
couple of bam b45-3's
parkerhale dragon
jb1
setra as1000
xs 78 based pumper
couple of aces
a few innovas
rebel
daisy 822
daisy 922
maybe a few more as I can't remember 100% what I have

Thank God for that, Ped --- you make me look normal.

Nice collection there.

[Geezer]

I have quite a few
crosmans
101
102
105
130's both US and Can
140's both US and Can in 4th variant and a 3rd variant
3 or 4 2200's inc firstmodel
2100
model 1
760
761xl
761whaley
numerous 766's 1st and 2nd models
numerous 1300's
numerous 1377/22's
2289 back packer
numerous 1389 backpackers
benjamins
177 pistol
312
2 347's
sheridans
64 c
67 c
81 c
85-88 c
2nd model c9a
3rd model c9a
couple of bam b45-3's
parkerhale dragon
jb1
setra as1000
xs 78 based pumper
couple of aces
a few innovas
rebel
daisy 822
daisy 922
maybe a few more as I can't remember 100% what I have

Er, wow.

What do you like most, and least?

No 2200s?

Er, wow, again.

[AllanM]

I prefer American CO2 rifles and my pump up collection is pretty modest :

Crosman 147
Benjamin 312
Benjamin 347
Sheridan C
Sheridan C9A
Setra AS1000
Sharp Innova

[--ped--]

Er, wow.

What do you like most, and least?

No 2200s?

Er, wow, again.

I've at least 3 2200's a first a 2nd and I think a 4th model 2200a plus I think I have a couple in bits awaiting parts
my favourite pumper to shoot was a little hybrid I made using a 2200 tube and lever with 13xx internals and steel breech -I'm planning on doing an upgraded version with a scratch built tube and valve and m-rod .25 barrel as a ratting gun to take fishing with me
my favourite to have is either my early 50's Benjamin 312 or my 20's 1st variant 101

[MartynB]

I've at least 3 2200's a first a 2nd and I think a 4th model 2200a plus I think I have a couple in bits awaiting parts
my favourite pumper to shoot was a little hybrid I made using a 2200 tube and lever with 13xx internals and steel breech -I'm planning on doing an upgraded version with a scratch built tube and valve and m-rod .25 barrel as a ratting gun to take fishing with me
my favourite to have is either my early 50's Benjamin 312 or my 20's 1st variant 101

You have some interesting toys

[AllanM]

Of my pumpers, I would go along with Ped and say the Benjamin 312 is my favourite.
It's very well made, nice and short and a good hard hitter and I love the look of the tootsie roll pump arm.
A close second would be the Crosman 147 but these days I prefer .22 over .177 because the pellets are a lot less fiddly to load!

Somewhere, I have the Airgun World review of the Whalley Crosman and like many on here, I lusted after one. If I remember rightly you could order it with different types of wood for the stock.

[danco1987]

I've owned quite a few crosman 1377/1322/2289s over the years. Just the one 1322 pistol now



Thrown a bit of money at it as happens with these guns. Its got a flat top piston, flat top valve with stock internals and a light hammer spring and new trigger internals, 2289 black grips and a silencer adaptor & a stubby light delrin silencer which does the job. The original 1322 had a hardened pivot pin which is great. I'm getting 5.2ish fpe with .22 hobbys (440-451fps) and what's great about the FT valve and piston is, that's after only 6 pumps (pump it any higher and power drops as hammer cannot dump the air). With the weaker hammer spring, there's air left in the valve and the second shot at the same power only requires a further 3 pumps.
There is a bit of hammer bounce so fitting a debounce device could help reduce the second charge number of pumps. But tbh, I'm not forking out for a HDD which is just a small bit of plastic shipped over from the states. It does all I need it for, is fun and a great little plinker/close range ratter.

[xmdx13x]

Of the mass produced MSPs I'd go with the Sheridan C. Ive got a few from the 50s that have never been resealed and still shoot strong. Some of the Benjamins 312s and 317s are pretty nice as well and can put out some nice power. There's alot of really nice guns that weren't mass produced that are nicer and better built but harder to come by. In terms of newer guns the Chinese MSP Multi shot is a good gun by most accounts.

Heres a pic of my nicely wooded Silver Streak

https://www.instagram.com/p/BV8g0p-g...d=ff1myhwhkrjb

[--ped--]

I've owned quite a few crosman 1377/1322/2289s over the years. Just the one 1322 pistol now



Thrown a bit of money at it as happens with these guns. Its got a flat top piston, flat top valve with stock internals and a light hammer spring and new trigger internals, 2289 black grips and a silencer adaptor & a stubby light delrin silencer which does the job. The original 1322 had a hardened pivot pin which is great. I'm getting 5.2ish fpe with .22 hobbys (440-451fps) and what's great about the FT valve and piston is, that's after only 6 pumps (pump it any higher and power drops as hammer cannot dump the air). With the weaker hammer spring, there's air left in the valve and the second shot at the same power only requires a further 3 pumps.
There is a bit of hammer bounce so fitting a debounce device could help reduce the second charge number of pumps. But tbh, I'm not forking out for a HDD which is just a small bit of plastic shipped over from the states. It does all I need it for, is fun and a great little plinker/close range ratter.

like you've done with your 1322 this has a FTP and shoots about 5.5fpe on 5 pumps but is limited by the light hammer spring and starts to valve lock so on 6 pumps shoots under 5fpe
I made it from a second variant 1322 but only used barrel tube and lever the frame is a phase 1 frame and the valve is a new phase 3 one I made all the other parts
the wood work I inletted for the grip and lever but sent it to Patty to be shaped
https://i.imgur.com/wsH0SrO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6CvYX31.jpg

[MartynB]

Somewhere, I have the Airgun World review of the Whalley Crosman and like many on here, I lusted after one. If I remember rightly you could order it with different types of wood for the stock.

Regard the stock wood, I also seem to recall that, would be interesting to re-read that review !

Maybe Terry can lay his hands on it

[AllanM]

Regard the stock wood, I also seem to recall that, would be interesting to re-read that review !

Maybe Terry can lay his hands on it

I've dug out the March 1979 issue of Airgun World in which Arthur Reid reviews the Whaley/Crosman 761XL.
He doesn't mention anything about different wood stocks but a contemporary advert by Whaley's of North London says "each rifle is custom built to customer's requirements and has over 200 different combinations of finish"
I still seem to remember seeing an advert or article that actually listed the various types of wood available, also I feel sure I read a review by Rod Lynton -- I know he definitely owned one.