Wather Rotex vs Hatsan AT44

[spike589715]

I have a 44
I have done some work on the gun and fitted a reg
Some info on my web pages if your interested
http://www.theywalkamongstus.co.uk/a...atsanmain.html
Accurate gun with a 100 shot full power capability - accurate as well

Cheers
Si

[rhyslightnin]

I have a 44
I have done some work on the gun and fitted a reg
Some info on my web pages if your interested
http://www.theywalkamongstus.co.uk/a...atsanmain.html
Accurate gun with a 100 shot full power capability - accurate as well

Cheers
Si

Very interesting results si especialy for a .177.., would be very interesting to see how meany you can squeeze from a .22..., the modifications that you have done are they doable without specialised machinery like lathes, milling machines, pillar drills etc?
Your article is only making me want an at-44 even more!! Thanks for your input :-)

[rhyslightnin]

Right guys I have made up my mind..

I was talking with a gunsmith today about the Rotex and he said it is unbeatable for the price, super smooth and accurate which seems to be the common attitude to this gun.. he also said he had worked on many AT44's and found them to be of poor quality and the Rotex would be a better choice!

So im going to hang out for the .177 to start coming to the party and snap one of these lovely little beastie's up..

Lets be honest there is no point compairing these to hw100's and I like and splitting hairs on metals used! for the buck I really dont think these can be beaten and im happy as a chimp up a banana tree waiting for one to come my way

I will post back on here of my veiews when ive had a play and stuck a tin or so of lead through her

But for now ive just got to wait for the .177 train to come in

I tell you somthing mate.., if it was my money i would definatly buy this.., NOW!!

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....-Regulated-177

much better than either rotex or hatsan! And in .177!
I wish i had the cash....

[hendrickotto]

Although not speaking as an operator, I noticed newer AT 44 Hatsans have the vertically adjustable butt pad and recently got the adjust cheek piece, as well. Another extra compared to the R 8. A synth stock R 8 would be a welcome variant in my opinion...

Hendrick

[Hollowpoint]

Just to throw another spanner in the works, why are you limiting yourself to just 2 rifles. I can think of at least 3 rifles in the same price bracket I would buy before either.

[spike589715]

Very interesting results si especialy for a .177.., would be very interesting to see how meany you can squeeze from a .22..., the modifications that you have done are they doable without specialised machinery like lathes, milling machines, pillar drills etc?
Your article is only making me want an at-44 even more!! Thanks for your input :-)

Hi
All the work was basically in my shed, I used a battery drill to remove the a it tamper, fitted the reg and drilled the air tube again with the battery drill
Think I drilled out the transfer port to be honest I cannot remember the size but again gently with the drill
Setting regulators up is a bit of messing around but for me part of the fun
I fill the tube up with ball bearings when testing to reduce the volume this saves time and air when testing ...... At the time I only had a hand pump and no dive bottle

I would think in .22 130 shots should be possible without to much hassle
But remember as soon as you start to tune a gun you need to look at what you are doing, measure results etc check power as well

Cheers
Simon

[fog horn]

Your right the daystate is a lovely beastie but like you buddy i have not got the funds at the moment i just want to get it set in my head what gun to go for

Three other guns in the same price range Hollowpoint!! do tell im always intrested in other opinions buddy

[Hoggyreels]

Gamo Coyote is on £399. ... worth shouldering to see if it suits .. just a thought !

[Hollowpoint]

Three other guns in the same price range Hollowpoint!! do tell im always intrested in other opinions buddy

Well since you asked

Air arms s400 and Air arms s200 - Ok so these arnt multishot (unless you buy the 410 which is more expensive) but they can be upgraded at a later date. What you do get is super quality, super accuracy, great consistency, great reliability, and just all round proven performance. (I have both )

BSA Ultra - This one is abit quirky. Its tiny and the cocking mech is abit marmite. That said again its good quality, great accuracy etc etc.

Brocock contour might also be a contender. Not used this one but I handled one in a gunshop and it looks good.

[Hoggyreels]

Brocock is nice to shoulder ... thing is, there hasn't yet been invented a 100% certain, absolute, reliable pcp ... all can give problems ... same with anything mechanical

[fog horn]

Very true hoggy

I am really sold on the Rotex, just seems like such a good gun for the price from new and all ive heard is prise for this beastie even from gun smiths and your good self hoggy and folks have even compared the bluing to the likes of Air Arms

Think the only thing that would sway it for me would be a HW100 Thumb hole stock or maybe a Daystate Huntsman all in .177 for the same price which I dont think will happen unless anyone knows of one of these going for this price

[Hoggyreels]

I lke the Brocock, it feels more "swing'able and more practical for walking the fields (the pro's) ... though, a relatively low shot count as compared to the R8. I'm not sorry l decided to buy the R8. I've a feeling l wouldn't have been unhappy if I'd had bought the Brocock. All Hatsan AT44 l saw were composite stocks, and l personally didn't fancy that. The Coyote shouldered nicely, also has a 10 pellet magazine. I actually had both on the counter at the same time, but decided on the R8. Just had more belief in a Walther being more durable in the long haul than a Gamo, no factual reason for that to be so, just my guess really.

lf there had been a stockist that had at the time, all the pcp's l was considering, that would have been nice. That said lm very pleased and content with the Walther. I'd of preferred if it was a bit lighter, but thats not deterimental, more a "like" ..

I've used a Daystate Huntsman .22 .. "only shot a few pellets" .. for looks l think they're hard to better. Lovely pcp. Though considerably more expensive than R8's, Coyote, Brocock and Hatsan's etc. I only ever wanted .22 calibre. The flatter trajectory of the .177 is not a big enough characteristic to pursade me the bigger kinetic "knock down power" is worth surrendering. Its one thing on paper proved by facts and figures, in the field, the .22 has better knock down & stay down ability "and at my age, no one will convince me otherwise lol"

HW 100 without doubt a fine well engineered pcp. For some reason, just doesn't float my boat. If the chance came along to obtain one at a very, very good price, yep l'd buy one .. that's just, an each too their own thing, no logic to it ... atb

[thumbhole]

Gamo Coyote is on £399. ... worth shouldering to see if it suits .. just a thought !

I have one of these, I had the R8 and Coyote at the same time to evaluate, the Coyote won hands down accuracy superb not pellet fussy over 100 shots per fill. Love it and ive got a ripley and mk4 Daystate.

[MRGbb]

As so many rifles nowadays use Walther barrels that would be the deciding factor for me. Plus does not really matter how good an action is its the barrel that delivers ultimate accuracy. I too am waiting for the .177 version !!!!!!!

[fog horn]

I agree hoggy mate I really like the brocock myself but wow what a poor shot count.. no way I could get on with a 30 odd shot capacity, real shame though!

Trouble is now I have mentioned the HW100 kt I keep looking at them now! Bugger

How much do you guys recon secondhand value would be on the thumbhole ideally FSB? In .177 of course

Naked gun as I dont need a scope..

Save me from myself