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    Having used one in .177 for some time, there are a few things that I'd like to see addressed in future revisions.

    Firstly, the two-piece breech assembly. Mine had the habit of closing-up slightly over a 1,000 shots or so, the result being that it became very difficult to insert/remove the magazines. This could possibly have been addressed by the use of a one-piece mount (possibly).

    With the 14-shot magazines, I was enjoying shooting the HW100TK that much, that I was putting an average of a tin of pellets down range every day, so this breech problem became a real nuisance.

    Secondly, the cheekpiece of the stock is too low, inviting parallax errors. I know that Weihrauch recently updated the stock with a higher/fuller cheekpiece, so they've obviously had similar feedback from other users – but it's still not high enough, IMO. Also the length-of-pull is quite short, but that will vary from user to user anyways. All of the HW100 shooters that I have met in competition, have either replaced their factory stocks with something like the CS1000, or made their own cheekpiece adjuster.

    And thirdly, with regards to accuracy, there is still a large discrepancy between the magazine and the single-shot HFT adapter. Again, IMO, you only get the rifles true accuracy when you are using the HFT adapter.

    Over a period of about 6 months, I was pulling my hair out trying to get my HW100TK to group properly. I tried about every single brand of pellet out there, bipods etc. It wasn't until I screwed on a Choate cheekpiece, and switched to the single-shot adapter using JSB Exacts, that I managed to achieve pellet-on-pellet groups at 45yds.

    Once I arrived at this ideal configuration, the rifles accuracy was phenomenal – as good as the Steyr I bought to replace it! The HW100TK is still the best handling rifle I've owned, but unfortunately, by the time I got it sorted, I had already agreed to sell it to a fellow club member!

    I've often considered buying another HW100TK in .22, so that I could compete in the .22 class at HFT shoots. If I were to go for another one in .177, I would probably go for the full-length version because of the increase shot count.

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    Parabuteo is offline My Chrony has bought it a couple of times...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronWilson View Post
    Having used one in .177 for some time, there are a few things that I'd like to see addressed in future revisions.

    Firstly, the two-piece breech assembly. Mine had the habit of closing-up slightly over a 1,000 shots or so, the result being that it became very difficult to insert/remove the magazines. This could possibly have been addressed by the use of a one-piece mount (possibly).

    With the 14-shot magazines, I was enjoying shooting the HW100TK that much, that I was putting an average of a tin of pellets down range every day, so this breech problem became a real nuisance.

    Secondly, the cheekpiece of the stock is too low, inviting parallax errors. I know that Weihrauch recently updated the stock with a higher/fuller cheekpiece, so they've obviously had similar feedback from other users – but it's still not high enough, IMO. Also the length-of-pull is quite short, but that will vary from user to user anyways. All of the HW100 shooters that I have met in competition, have either replaced their factory stocks with something like the CS1000, or made their own cheekpiece adjuster.

    And thirdly, with regards to accuracy, there is still a large discrepancy between the magazine and the single-shot HFT adapter. Again, IMO, you only get the rifles true accuracy when you are using the HFT adapter.

    Over a period of about 6 months, I was pulling my hair out trying to get my HW100TK to group properly. I tried about every single brand of pellet out there, bipods etc. It wasn't until I screwed on a Choate cheekpiece, and switched to the single-shot adapter using JSB Exacts, that I managed to achieve pellet-on-pellet groups at 45yds.

    Once I arrived at this ideal configuration, the rifles accuracy was phenomenal – as good as the Steyr I bought to replace it! The HW100TK is still the best handling rifle I've owned, but unfortunately, by the time I got it sorted, I had already agreed to sell it to a fellow club member!

    I've often considered buying another HW100TK in .22, so that I could compete in the .22 class at HFT shoots. If I were to go for another one in .177, I would probably go for the full-length version because of the increase shot count.
    Greta review but...

    Not just me then...

    The 2 halves of the action can also move laterally....this can chuck the zero out the window.

    I used a 1 piece mount or bridging clamp to lock both halves and the zero stays put.

    The bluing on my barrel left a bit to be desired.

    The stock...long since gone, I have gone GinB FT01

    The worst and most heanous crime IMHO was fitting the stock to the barrel band, which also held the cylinder.

    The last thing you want or need is wood (which changes with temp and humidity) being coupled to the barrel.

    The first thing snipers of old did was to get rid of the wood round the fore end of the barrels for this reason (and also for harmonics but that came later).

    My rifle had the BTAS treatment which did away with this alltogether, although my barrel band had long since gone.

    Fit a bipod and that could make things even worse, lean on it a bit and it all goes up to the barrel, the O ring can only do so much.

    The safety can also play up, the spring is only held in its channel by being peened and this can let go, safety goes floppy and does it's own thing.

    Oh yea, and the design of the valve and seat means that they go hot sooner or later (whether they have addressed this I dont know) and with AT fitted...that is a pain.

    That said....

    Out of the box, if you get a good one, they are very, very good. get a friday afternoon job

    Mine is still the most accurate, consistent rifle I own, in spite of my attempts at interfering with it.

    I would buy another, but it would be off to Ben again I am afraid...but no one spends money improving junk do they
    I'm a maggot in another life you know

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    Parabuteo is offline My Chrony has bought it a couple of times...
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    Thinking about it...

    With the ambi stock, why on earth dont they fit an adjustable ambi cheek piece (it need not be ambi, just symetrical and reversable) and an adjustable butt plate...problem solved
    I'm a maggot in another life you know

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    hw100

    i find this rifle phenominal, ive had loads of precharged and this knocks them all into a cocked hat, the only thing in my eyes that would make it better would be a contoured adjustable butt pad

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter64 View Post
    would be a contoured adjustable butt pad
    Mine had one of the Bisley adjustable ones fitted which worked quite well.
    Definitely a worthwhile improvement, and companies like Hydro Graphics can cut the stock to convert it to an adjustable cheek-piece.

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    I'm in love again, bit the bullet and got a new hw100kt .22 and dropped a front stock bipod stud and very impressed by its pointability and accuracy now just see how it fares with feather and fur, the mag system to that of my rapid is nice especially the anti double loading, something which theoben could benefit from however bit cautious of the gauge on the front of the tube, a cap of sorts would be nice to protect and camo this would be nice. found the ambi thumbhole stock nice and just right for my eye relief etc but would benefit from an adjustable comb/butpad like my rapid for fine tweaks.
    on the whole very impressed and looks like a long term keeper.
    Theoben TTR2 .20 KevG reg, PhilD valve and Ti stem, Bucketboy mod'd barrel and custom silencer / Weihrauch HW100KT .22

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    I can't tell from pictures of this gun, but would it be usable with a one-piece scope mount?

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