Catches you out at first, doesn't itOriginally Posted by gordon
Just bought a Superhawk 8" nickel,just a tad powerful
I get by with a little help from my friends
Catches you out at first, doesn't itJust bought a Superhawk 8" nickel,just a tad powerful
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Were I to live somewhere where it was possible to hold full bore pistols I'd go for a 1911A1, an SV 1911 with double stack mag, possibly a Browning 9mm and a short revolver backup
I'm a big fan of capacity
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Id choose a semi auto for everyday use where mags wouldnt be filled for long periods of time, but for home defence you need something thats ready to go in an instant and that can only be revolver
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Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
The mags tend to stay filled unless you shoot them empty or cycle them out through the pistol. So you have to either get to a rural area or a range quite often, or work this tricky and dangerous operation quite often.Id choose a semi auto for everyday use where mags wouldnt be filled for long periods of time, but for home defence you need something thats ready to go in an instant and that can only be revolver
Revolvers can be loaded and unloaded very easily.
Jim
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"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
Unless you planned to keep them solely in your home, business, or vehicle, Nick, you'd be surprised what a royal pain in the arse carrying even one of those guns would be.Were I to live somewhere where it was possible to hold full bore pistols I'd go for a 1911A1, an SV 1911 with double stack mag, possibly a Browning 9mm and a short revolver backup
I'm a big fan of capacity
Nick
I have a carry permit. My carry pistol is a tiny North American Arms single action revolver, in .22 magnum. It holds only 5 rounds: is hard to hit anything with: and is impossible to reload quickly (although I do carry 5 extra rounds for it, in a pouch in my holster).
So, why do I carry it?
Because I will carry it.
It weights only a few ounces, and is only about 4 inches long. It's so small and light I have to reach into my pocket to verify that I'm carrying it! And I ALWAYS carry it, unless I'm making a plane trip or otherwise going somewhere my permit's invalid. No visible holster, no need to cover it up with a jacket, etc.
It's in my pocket as I type this.
I sometimes think of the many people who have known me for years, and have seen me hundreds of times, who have never seen me that I wasn't carrying a gun. But who never knew that I was!
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
I get by with a little help from my friends
I'm sure this is a silly question Jim, but do you need to carry it? Is it that "iffy" where you live or is this the normal way of life out there?So, why do I carry it?
Because I will carry it.
Jim
No offence meant, I'm just curious.
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St Paul of 55
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Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
No offense taken, Paul.
Do I really need to carry a gun? Not really. I have been involved in only one incident in my life where carrying a gun would have helped me - and I didn't have one: I was attacked on my own property by two German Shepherds.
My neighborhood? We've had a car thief run into our drive while he was being pursued by the police on foot, after he and his cronies bailed out of the car (they collared him there, Jan and I saw it: it really scared her, because she was sitting on our porch when it happened).
The lock on our driveway gate was broken accidentally by police, when they ran into it while chasing someone (we weren't there, my neighbor saw it happen: the police denied it at first but later replaced the lock).
Jan and I drove up one night after dark to find our alley gate damaged. I went out back to check, gun in hand (NOT the little .22: something WAAY heavier!) and found no one, but found a blood trail, and damage to the fence on the other side.
The police told us afterwards that someone had been shot outside of our property, and had hopped our fence to get away, and hopped again to get out.
I've never been robbed or assaulted in my life: but yes, trouble does happen around here: so as long as I can carry a gun legally, I'm going to.
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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To be honest Jim, so would I if I could (you probably wouldn't get that question on a US shooting forumNo offense taken, Paul.
Do I really need to carry a gun? Not really. I have been involved in only one incident in my life where carrying a gun would have helped me - and I didn't have one: I was attacked on my own property by two German Shepherds.
My neighborhood? We've had a car thief run into our drive while he was being pursued by the police on foot, after he and his cronies bailed out of the car (they collared him there, Jan and I saw it: it really scared her, because she was sitting on our porch when it happened).
The lock on our driveway gate was broken accidentally by police, when they ran into it while chasing someone (we weren't there, my neighbor saw it happen: the police denied it at first but later replaced the lock).
Jan and I drove up one night after dark to find our alley gate damaged. I went out back to check, gun in hand (NOT the little .22: something WAAY heavier!) and found no one, but found a blood trail, and damage to the fence on the other side.
The police told us afterwards that someone had been shot outside of our property, and had hopped our fence to get away, and hopped again to get out.
I've never been robbed or assaulted in my life: but yes, trouble does happen around here: so as long as I can carry a gun legally, I'm going to.
Jim
Not because I need to, but because I think its a basic right for any law-abiding adult in a democracy. And if they have that right, it should be exercised so that it doesn't go by default.
We had it, it was taken away; but you have a government where certain basic citizens rights were established at the very outset, whereas we still have a culture where things are "given" to us, or taken away - we have no constitutional guarantees at all. Because we don't have a constitution - partliament can enact any law, or even give away the power to enact/enforce laws (e.g. to the "European community").
Habeas corpus was suspended in the UK in both world wars without a murmur; yes, I know about the US-japanese detention in WW2 and the Bush excesses, but you still have fundamental rights that we do not have - excesses in the US are partial and can always be challenged, in the UK they are blanket and tend to be one-way.
Also, I've seen many stats about gun crime in the US e.g.:
- general stats about criminal gun use by those with/without criminal records
- crime rates before/after concealed carry laws are enacted
- crime rates before/after the absolute right to shoot burglars is granted
The stats all seem to heavily favour the NRA view of life
I have a marvellous book by a US author which I can't find
I have also seen stats that show more "baddies" are shot by private guns than by police guns?
Anyway, none of this is coming from a "gun nut" - I've never even held a "real" firearm
(But thats the real answer to your post about why everyone on here gets so excited about deadbeat US tourist destinations - its not Disneyland -as if- or the burger joints; its 'cause its the land of the gunshop
Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
I agree 100%, Mike, and your last paragraph was quite enlightening!
I think the book you have in mind was entitled "More Guns, Less Crime". (?) I never read it and don't recall the author's name. And yes, there is a very strong statistical correlation between the drop in violent crimes in those American States (currently about 39) that have enacted right to carry laws.
There are 2 or 3 other States that have gone further and simply stated that any law abiding adult resident can carry a concealed handgun without any need for a permit: 6 or so other States that make provisions for a concealed carry permit, but issue it only at police discretion: and 2 or 3 States that simply ban concealed carry, making no provision for a permit.
Right to carry is a relatively new thing in the US - since the 1980's. I remember as a kid that you used to need political clout to be able to get one (and usually had to pay a bribe!). Until then, carrying a gun was something cops did, and criminals, but not ordinary people.
You're right about "using it or losing it." I'm stunned at the relatively few people in the US who have applied for concealed carry permits. even though they could get them.
Anyway...we're getting far afield from Multishot Co2 pistols!
Take care,
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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You sure you're not a Texan?
Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
No, but next state over.You sure you're not a Texan?
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
it`s taken me 6 years to get so far...
You can say that again !! thought i`d fired a MagnumCatches you out at first, doesn't it
Last edited by gordon; 17-10-2010 at 08:04 PM. Reason: Re-posting question in the pistol section
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