Bad spin on shooting

[Cocksure]

So you're concerned they might show a brutal massacre by a peice of shite murderer in a bad light...

Let's all hope they show the positive side of killing your neighbours and passers by....dear christ, is it me? Think about what you are saying....

[lensman57]

So you're concerned they might show a brutal massacre by a peice of shite murderer in a bad light...

Let's all hope they show the positive side of killing your neighbours and passers by....dear christ, is it me? Think about what you are saying....

I respect your view and no one is suggesting a deffence of that vile act but I think that OPs concern is more to do with giving ammunition to the anti gun lobby by unwittingly making " gun " the culprit alongside the criminal who instigated the act. Tricky subject.

A.G

[tacfoley]

So you're concerned they might show a brutal massacre by a peice of shite murderer in a bad light...

Let's all hope they show the positive side of killing your neighbours and passers by....dear christ, is it me? Think about what you are saying....

Er, just who is this aimed at?

I think that the OP was concerned that allowing access to a film crew intent on making a movie about R***, might backfire on us, the current legal firearms holders, by showing us in a negative light.

There has already been a programme made that covered the events of that appalling day in a sympathetic manner.

I'm not certain that any kind of a remake would be justified in being made, except to exploit one aspect or another of legal gun ownership in this country. Given the what we have so far learned about aims of the production team, I would also err on the side of caution, and advise them to go away.

tac

NOTE to OP - in this country, we don't HAVE assault rifles.

[Murphy]

NOTE to OP - in this country, we don't HAVE assault rifles.

We do but you have to click clack between shots.

[Cocksure]

Er, just who is this aimed at?

I think that the OP was concerned that allowing access to a film crew intent on making a movie about R***, might backfire on us, the current legal firearms holders, by showing us in a negative light.

There has already been a programme made that covered the events of that appalling day in a sympathetic manner.

I'm not certain that any kind of a remake would be justified in being made, except to exploit one aspect or another of legal gun ownership in this country. Given the what we have so far learned about aims of the production team, I would also err on the side of caution, and advise them to go away.


tac

NOTE to OP - in this country, we don't HAVE assault rifles.

I noticed you omitted it's name......he ain't no folk hero....well done. OP calls him by his first name...pals?

The OP advises ' It's about FAC owners whose switch flicks'...the OPs own words, not the film crew!...that would make a great anti gun argument FRONT PAGE..

There is no good side, it's not the media out to get guns again, it's the publics morbid fascination with criminal murderers...

Any body who needs to be told not to get involved with film crews shouldn't have a gun anyway!!!

And it aint a difficult subject, he is a murderer and we do not support him....in this particular case guns have no defence, we are NOT apologists for murderers.

People died, it ain't the place for argument that ' not all guns are bad ' they have relatives.

Other than that we fully agree...

[buttloaves]

OP calls him by his first name...pals?

No he didn't.

[Cocksure]

No he didn't.

You are correct.

[Steyr]

So you're concerned they might show a brutal massacre by a peice of shite murderer in a bad light...

Let's all hope they show the positive side of killing your neighbours and passers by....dear christ, is it me? Think about what you are saying....

Really !!!!

[Cocksure]

Really !!!!

I just don't consider that firearms ( not air rifles) ownership has a good side in relation to said events.

BAD SPIN ON SHOOTING is not how I regard a murderer killing people with guns.....it's not really my first thought.......

I don't think of the offender as an FAC holder having a bad day.

If a film crew wanted help with this matter I would tell the voyeuristic vulture tits to go away, and not because they might make guns look bad.....( which in this case guns DO look bad and to argue
otherwise would be distasteful in the extreme.)

Hey it's a forum, and an opinion.( and as it's my opinion it's also correct)

[Steyr]

They wanted pictures of a finger squeezing a trigger and the projectile leaving the barrel with flashes and smoke and no doubt a slowed down bang.

I dont want my finger to used to dramatise someone getting wasted especially at the hands of someone like michael ryan.

Your right it is a forum
Your right it is only your opinion
But its my finger and my bullets and my barrels they wanted to use to press home the equation of a bad man with bad guns and bad bullets to snuff out an innocent life just because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I dont agree with that so I told the to **** off.
My decision and if its my decision it was the right one.

[Antoni]

They wanted pictures of....

Imagine how the production meeting went when they discussed how they could maximise the impact for maximum advertising revenue - or maximising whatever.

Media people don't care much about ethics [- opinion].

Not owned a television set or a TV licence for 25 years [Irrelevant ?]

Perhaps a media person on here would put the other side of this argument?

[lensman57]

Imagine how the production meeting went when they discussed how they could maximise the impact for maximum advertising revenue - or maximising whatever.

Media people don't care much about ethics [- opinion].

Not owned a television set or a TV licence for 25 years [Irrelevant ?]

Perhaps a media person on here would put the other side of this argument?

I have had some limited dealings with media people ( TV and Music variety ). They are only interested in one thing and that is self promotion that will lead to the next job. Marketing people are kind of similar. They market themselves alongside or even above the product. The only way to get the next job.

A.G

[Airrepman]

Hi,my thought is if a person is in that frame of mind at that time he will use what ever weapon is at hand be it ,knife ,hammer,car,poison,u Carn't blame the weapon but only the user.o

[Sniper Pete]

If any shooter group needs to be singled out as bad for shooting's image I'd suggest Paintballing; the only branch of shooting where people deliberately aim at other people and try to shoot them.
I find that hard to understand. Yes, it might be "fun" if you're fit & healthy to run about, hide, and shoot your opponent, but is it GOOD for shooting's image? Could it encourage your average psychopath? Hard to justify in my humble opinion.

I used to shoot small arms, had to give it up as it became to difficult to continue with all the restrictions.
I used to shoot shotguns. Went down the same route.
I now shoot air pistols/rifles, and sadly I can see that going the same way.

The secret agenda of some is to stop all shooting in this country, unless you are a policeman or in the armed services. What those people fail to realise is criminals will continue to use guns, and so may the occasional psychopath or hit man. All the banning guns of any type WILL do is stop thousands of law abiding people enjoying their hobby and hurting no one.

Hopefully, we can ride out the current mission to ban shooting altogether. Sadly in this current world it all depends on the media. God Help Us!

[Zomboid]

The media want to sell their product in a crowded market so will look for as many superlatives and as much hyperboly as they can cram into it. Wonder if they thought about asking the NRA etc?

I was asked to do some shooting for a company film. Much as I would love to have shown me shooting and having a good time (it was a team building video) I reluctantly declined. It's just a minefield to have something filmed and then not be a part of the editing.

Shame they aren't looking at Dunblane... you've got paedos, scandal, politicians pressurising the police ... all sorts...