View Poll Results: Venom Vs V-mach-your preference?

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  • Old School Venom

    16 61.54%
  • V-mach

    10 38.46%
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Thread: Old School Venom lazaglide Vs Modern V-mach Weihrauchs...

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  1. #1
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    My Venom lazaglided 77 trophy would have cost £510.00 in 1987-what does that equate to in modern money? You see where I'm going with this......
    Never go off half cocked....

    All lies matter

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    hiya tony and graham

    what a load of old codswallop tony that 77 will outshoot any of your gasrammed springers lol
    it is a bit hard to cock tho,but its not bad for me coz i'm a big un,and you know i do prefer a nice soft plob of the old venoms
    but this is the only springer that ive found 100% accurate as i'm far too lazy,this thing shoots the same held or rested,its just sooooo quick the pellets up the range before you feel anything,but then again i'm no expert like you ive only been shooting and messing with springers for a couple of weeks,i haven't got a clue
    see you sunday toe

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    Quote Originally Posted by davegee59 View Post
    what a load of old codswallop tony that 77 will outshoot any of your gasrammed springers lol
    it is a bit hard to cock tho,but its not bad for me coz i'm a big un,and you know i do prefer a nice soft plob of the old venoms
    but this is the only springer that ive found 100% accurate as i'm far too lazy,this thing shoots the same held or rested,its just sooooo quick the pellets up the range before you feel anything,but then again i'm no expert like you ive only been shooting and messing with springers for a couple of weeks,i haven't got a clue
    see you sunday toe
    its not as good as my HW55 Dave and you know it LOL


    Its a beautiful rifle...im not going to knock the workmanship on it as it is way way better than anything I can do, I just did not like the way it cocked, as much as I don't like the way my 440TH cocks either. And as you say its devastatingly accurate. A collector would buy it for what it is, a superb piece of airgun engineering...and leave it as is, i would tinker with it and it wouldn't be a venom any more.

    Now the one that Les has/had...I like that one more.

    Thinking about it I bet a spring change would transform the gun, im wondering if something longer/thinner would soften up the cocking cycle but deliver similar power..the gun will remain quick and not hold sensitive due to the ally piston it has I bet.

    last..Dave, you know I know you taught me everything you know.... or is it I know ...especially the 9/64th part

    I will say this, Venom did experiment...seen 4 old 77's now and not one is the same spec as the other.

    Im shooting my .22 hw80 gas ram on sunday...the one you hate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxterbasics View Post
    My Venom lazaglided 77 trophy would have cost £510.00 in 1987-what does that equate to in modern money? You see where I'm going with this......
    yeah you're obviously fed up with it and intend on passing it on to some unsuspecting mug

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxterbasics View Post
    My Venom lazaglided 77 trophy would have cost £510.00 in 1987-what does that equate to in modern money? You see where I'm going with this......
    £1173

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/b...nged-1900.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy-Harry View Post
    oh bugger, do you do 0% finance Graham??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy-Harry View Post
    The point I am trying to make-everything is now built to a price How many man hours were spent honing the originals to perfection? Or is it a case of the apprentice has truly become the master
    Never go off half cocked....

    All lies matter

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    For me, Steve Pope is still the man to beat tuning wise. Lets face it, he has true "Venom" blood in his veins.

    Andy
    Member, the Feinwerkbau Sport appreciation Society (over 50's chapter)
    http://www.rivington-riflemen.eu/ Andy, from the North !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amac View Post
    For me, Steve Pope is still the man to beat tuning wise. Lets face it, he has true "Venom" blood in his veins.

    Andy
    Agree 100%-buying or selling an expensive tuned spring rifle, provenance is essential-Steve Pope is obviously at the top of the tree right now

    What I am asking is: how does his work compare to the Venom rifles of old?
    Never go off half cocked....

    All lies matter

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    old v's new

    Quote Originally Posted by LeeO View Post
    Could it be the starting ingredient's,?
    I've read a few time's on here the older the better with HW's,?
    I'm sure there's more than one engineer or tradesman on here who'd agree base material's dont seem as good as even ten years ago,let alone twenty,
    Thats the elephant in the room they're all missing ! That & better QC I suspect with the hw's.

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