Weirauchs! I'm not on the bandwagon...

[Airsporter1st]

It's no secret that I am a big fan of Airsporters, but I've had guns from practically every manufacturer over the years. I recently reduced my collection and now have an Airsporter Mk 1, three Mk 2's and....


.......a HW97. I just cannot bring myself to get rid of it. It looks good and shoots superbly. I still wince everytime I thumb a pellet in, wondering whether this is going to be the time when the cocking arm lug shears off and my thumb is crushed, but that aside, its a beaut and a keeper as long as I continue to shoot.

[Artfull-Bodger]

It's no secret that I am a big fan of Airsporters, but I've had guns from practically every manufacturer over the years. I recently reduced my collection and now have an Airsporter Mk 1, three Mk 2's and....


.......a HW97. I just cannot bring myself to get rid of it. It looks good and shoots superbly. I still wince everytime I thumb a pellet in, wondering whether this is going to be the time when the cocking arm lug shears off and my thumb is crushed, but that aside, its a beaut and a keeper as long as I continue to shoot.

Lol your thumbs are safe from anything other than colossal bad luck, for your thumb to get squished the trigger has to fail followed by the cocking linkage at the same time, and if your THAT unlucky your probably going to get hit by an asteroid!

[derekj]

It's no secret that I am a big fan of Airsporters, but I've had guns from practically every manufacturer over the years. I recently reduced my collection and now have an Airsporter Mk 1, three Mk 2's and....


.......a HW97. I just cannot bring myself to get rid of it. It looks good and shoots superbly. I still wince everytime I thumb a pellet in, wondering whether this is going to be the time when the cockid shoots superbly. I still wince everytime I thumb a pellet in, wondering whether this is going to be the time when the cocking arm lug shears off and my thumb is crushed, but that aside, its a beaut and a keeper as long as I continue to shoot.

* I still wince everytime I thumb a pellet in, wondering whether this is going to be the time when the cocking arm lug shears off and my thumb is crushed*

That's because Weihrauch slide breech rifles should not of been allowed into the country until an adequate fail safe mechanical lock was placed on the compression tube. They're dangerous make no mistake about it. I can scarcely believe they get away with it to be honest. Plus to rub the salt in; they cheekily provide some pointless safety engraving on the rear block. I wouldn't buy another Weihrauch because of that alone.

[Artfull-Bodger]

* I still wince everytime I thumb a pellet in, wondering whether this is going to be the time when the cocking arm lug shears off and my thumb is crushed*

That's because Weihrauch slide breech rifles should not of been allowed into the country until an adequate fail safe mechanical lock was placed on the compression tube. They're dangerous make no mistake about it. I can scarcely believe they get away with it to be honest. Plus to rub the salt in; they cheekily provide some pointless safety engraving on the rear block. I wouldn't buy another Weihrauch because of that alone.

Oh yeah and the thousands of people who have lost their thumbs just this year is testament to that!

You do realise the safety, trigger and cocking linkage would have to fail, at the same time, to get your thumb crunched?

[madcarlos]

Still think a good 77 or 80 will be hard to better, More so the earlier ones, They have been leading the way since the early 80s, My 77 is over 30 years old and will still match my pcp Guns for accuracy . Myself anything after the 77 and 80 did not get any better , Just a bit less weight with some of the later models,

[StellaArtois Sr]

* I still wince everytime I thumb a pellet in, wondering whether this is going to be the time when the cocking arm lug shears off and my thumb is crushed*

That's because Weihrauch slide breech rifles should not of been allowed into the country until an adequate fail safe mechanical lock was placed on the compression tube. They're dangerous make no mistake about it. I can scarcely believe they get away with it to be honest. Plus to rub the salt in; they cheekily provide some pointless safety engraving on the rear block. I wouldn't buy another Weihrauch because of that alone.

If you were to cock and load your rifle in the correct manner by keeping a hold on the cocking lever all the time, that wouldn't become an issue anyway. I say that but I never do it that way though

[Roundshot]

Weihrauch have an enduring appeal in Britain for sound reasons. As the sport came alive in the late 70's with the advent of the airgun press, the already dated HW35 made its mark as a superior, robust, durable design. Our offerings, undoubted elegance and shotgun handling notwithstanding (Airsporter, Mercury, &tc.) couldn't match the overall quality, not least trigger & breech bolt. Then along came the splendid 80 & 77.

I agree the Rekord is easier than CD to adjust but I think the AA unit feels better once a good setting is arrived at. I must say, however, the Sandwell tuned HW triggers seem a vast improvement, having shot Bad Daz's SFS '95 at the Boinger Bash - better than AA CD as well.

Weihrauch quality control is a well attested issue - I went to buy a .22" 95 in 2015 but it galled so badly on cocking, new from box, I changed my mind. Yes a 95, not 99.

I realise it's an excellent gun, and had the shop another fault free one, I'd have bought it.

My 97KT Blackline is faultless and with a simple strip, clean & moly, shoots nicely.

My old 35 & 80, also 'in the spirit of the original', shoot well. The 80 is twangy, the 35 on leather seal not in the slightest.

HW's are I think handsome, robust rifles. AA's perhaps more elegant and generally nicer to shoot new.

That said, if one rifle was to be my lot........the MkII TX would certainly be it.

[Rickenbacker]

If you were to cock and load your rifle in the correct manner by keeping a hold on the cocking lever all the time, that wouldn't become an issue anyway. I say that but I never do it that way though

That's insane. Please, make that extra level of failsafe part of your technique. You know it makes sense.

[Airsporter1st]

If you were to cock and load your rifle in the correct manner by keeping a hold on the cocking lever all the time, that wouldn't become an issue anyway. I say that but I never do it that way though

If the cocking lug sheared off, holding the cocking lever would be of no value whatsoever. However, at the point where the thumb is in the breech area, the trigger should have already engaged, so the crushed thumb scenario is highly unlikely.

I mentioned it just as a bit of fun. If I really thought it was dangerous, I wouldn't shoot a '97.

[I. J.]

Take no notice, hes like this every day all day but a really nice man when you get to know him. OH, and he really does like a good wobbly webley, don't let him fool you.
Mind he does have one or two, three, four or more HWs.

I must try harder to be a t**t.
29 HWs to be exact so you cant believe his word.

* I still wince everytime I thumb a pellet in, wondering whether this is going to be the time when the cocking arm lug shears off and my thumb is crushed*

That's because Weihrauch slide breech rifles should not of been allowed into the country until an adequate fail safe mechanical lock was placed on the compression tube. They're dangerous make no mistake about it. I can scarcely believe they get away with it to be honest. Plus to rub the salt in; they cheekily provide some pointless safety engraving on the rear block. I wouldn't buy another Weihrauch because of that alone.

Well I wouldn't buy a Mk1 A A TX200 because they came without any kind of anti bear trap. Its just good gun safety when all said and done. Bear trap or not I hold onto that under lever like my thumb depends on it.

While we are on the subject of HWs and to keep my bad reputation and this interesting thread going - the worse models, I.M.O. are the HW90 and HW57. The '90s is over weight and the trigger is not up to the Rekord standard.

ATB
Ian

[Artfull-Bodger]

I must try harder to be a t**t.
29 HWs to be exact so you cant believe his word.



Well I wouldn't buy a Mk1 A A TX200 because they came without any kind of anti bear trap. Its just good gun safety when all said and done. Bear trap or not I hold onto that under lever like my thumb depends on it.

While we are on the subject of HWs and to keep my bad reputation and this interesting thread going - the worse models, I.M.O. are the HW90 and HW57. The '90s is over weight and the trigger is not up to the Rekord standard.

ATB
Ian

Before you get too carried away with the bear trap, unscrew the rocker and have a look at what exactly is holding the compression cylinder back, it's a tiny little lug, so if your worried about the safety, trigger and underlever all failing, then you should be worried about that failing too!

[I. J.]

Before you get too carried away with the bear trap, unscrew the rocker and have a look at what exactly is holding the compression cylinder back, it's a tiny little lug, so if your worried about the safety, trigger and underlever all failing, then you should be worried about that failing too!

'..unscrew the rocker....' If by this you mean the tang that goes into the cylinder, well, I never put my precious banjo playing digits into the orifice (or any other orifice ) until the rifle is FULLY cocked. The chances of the safety, sear, rod and tang failing all at the same time is about as rare as me winning a dancing or charm competition.

ATB
Ian

[Artfull-Bodger]

'..unscrew the rocker....' If by this you mean the tang that goes into the cylinder, well, I never put my precious banjo playing digits into the orifice (or any other orifice ) until the rifle is FULLY cocked. The chances of the safety, sear, rod and tang failing all at the same time is about as rare as me winning a dancing or charm competition.

ATB
Ian

If you knock the pin out that holds the rocker on the bear trap you can remove the rocker and will find the whole thing is held on by 2 screws, on the rocker is a little lug that protrudes into the slots on the cylinder, that's what holds the cylinder back,

One of the reasons the bear trap is on an TX is when you cock the rifle but the safety does not pop out, all TX owners are probably familiar with this you have to pull the lever back again to engage the trigger fully, well you could imagine anyone unfamiliar with the rifle could well stick their fingers in the port with the trigger not fully engaged!

To be honest I get so irritated by TX bear traps I put an o-ring under the rocker to permanently disengage it, then rely on the safety , trigger and me holding the lever as per my HW's!

[Thunderball50]

It's no secret that I am a big fan of Airsporters, but I've had guns from practically every manufacturer over the years. I recently reduced my collection and now have an Airsporter Mk 1, three Mk 2's and....


.......a HW97. I just cannot bring myself to get rid of it. It looks good and shoots superbly. I still wince everytime I thumb a pellet in, wondering whether this is going to be the time when the cocking arm lug shears off and my thumb is crushed, but that aside, its a beaut and a keeper as long as I continue to shoot.

I love my HW110 and my 97KT STL but this, ^....^. Has made me think again about trading it for a 95K, I like my thumbs!

[StellaArtois Sr]

About this time last year I joined a rifle club, with my Gamo Whisper and Ratcatcher and was very happy. That was until I walked in the door off the range and was greeted with loads of really lovely rifles, I felt quite inadequate Over the next couple of weeks I was looking at them all and decided to buy a new one the only problem was what. I narrowed it down to a HW97KT, TX200 and a Pro Sport. I went to my local shop and tried all 3. The HW97 fitted like a glove, it just felt so perfect in every way. At first the TX felt to wide in my hands and that bear trap gave me the hump. The Pro Sport was very nice but I just didn't like the cocking handle.
So I brought the HW97 and I absolutley loved it. I then fancied a .22 rifle, I almost bought the HW95 but decided to buy the HW98 as I just love the look of that stock. I then fancied a rifle with iron sights and got a HW99. The reason being is I love the quality of the other 2 Weihrauchs, and thought I would stick with them. I was aware of the Weihrauch boing in my 97 and 99 although not to bad, but I had the opportunity to buy a HW95 which had more boing than Big Ben. I brought that as my learning to strip down and work on gun. I got a TbT kit, watched YouTube videos and was absolutely delighted with how the rifle ended up. I worked on my 97 and 99 and was delighted with them as well. Since then I have got every Weihrauch Springer available to buy (I don't do PCP's yet). Why you may ask, I can't really explain my love affair with Weihrauchs, but they shoot beautifully, to me they look lovely.( People will say they are ugly, in my eyes they are not. Citreons are bloody ugly but people love them) They are a joy to work on, very easy infact. Once I have had a furtle with them (Yes I know it's fettle but I have always had a furtle with things)they are very reliable and a real pleasure to own. I don't just own Weirauchs, I have a couple of Air Arms, Walthers and Dianas as well but I favour my Weihrauchs, maybe it's because it was my first Air Rifle love. My HW97KT is still my favourite also because it is the most accurate rifle I have in my hands anyway.
Oh yeah I also have 3 Weihrauch pistols