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    i have put bids on a few collectable pellet tins on the auction site,i bid over what the consensus of value is as i want to compliment my pre war webley service and bsa first pattern,it seems fishy to me that recently they have all been sold at the next incremental bid,ie 50p more than my max bid,maybe the free listing policy leads to these shannanigans,all the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin bingham View Post
    i have put bids on a few collectable pellet tins on the auction site,i bid over what the consensus of value is as i want to compliment my pre war webley service and bsa first pattern,it seems fishy to me that recently they have all been sold at the next incremental bid,ie 50p more than my max bid,maybe the free listing policy leads to these shannanigans,all the best.
    Hi Martin,

    If your bid is not as high as another, an item will sell for the next incremental bid. It does not necessarily mean the higher bidder only placed a bid 50p higher than yours as their limit may well have been a lot higher.

    I agree about prices. There seem to be some new collectors out there with bottomless funds. Who knows, perhaps they'll get bored soon and sell their recent acquisitions for a song!

    John
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    Prefer boxed or cased but will consider loose examples too.

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    hi john,i know you are right but sometimes it seems a bit iffy that with the tins being sought after i seem to come 2nd in most, i would have expected the tins to attract a few other bidders that would bid to a fair price,all the best,martin
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    Hi,

    The Bulldog pellets eventually sold for £165 with a similar packet in slightly worse condition also selling recently for £97.99 which although still quite high, is a bit closer to my estimations.

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    Brian

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    I think I paid something like £6.50 for mine many moons ago, from Dennis Hiller, who often came across a wide variety of collectable pellets. His mailings are very much missed by me.

    John
    Currently looking for Baikal Makarov pistols with the following prefixes to the serial number: 98, T01, T09, T21, T22
    Prefer boxed or cased but will consider loose examples too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    I think I paid something like £6.50 for mine many moons ago, from Dennis Hiller, who often came across a wide variety of collectable pellets. His mailings are very much missed by me.

    John
    Hi John,

    I guess Dennis Hiller provided the inspiration and basic knowledge for a lot of would be collectors during the earlier years. The Bulldog pellets remain my favourite example of commercial artwork from that or any other period.

    Regards

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    Hi John,

    I guess Dennis Hiller provided the inspiration and basic knowledge for a lot of would be collectors during the earlier years. The Bulldog pellets remain my favourite example of commercial artwork from that or any other period.

    Regards

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    He certainly did that Brian. I still have my mailings and occasionally read through them for posterity.

    Not sure if I have a favourite design. There are lots I like but one that springs to mind is the pre WW1 Britannia box. I had one years ago and stupidly sold it. My box of Lincoln Match is among my favourites, as are Adder/BSA with their prominent Ensigns.

    See you ate the Imperial in a couple of weeks?

    Kind regards,

    John
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    Prefer boxed or cased but will consider loose examples too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    Hi John,

    I guess Dennis Hiller provided the inspiration and basic knowledge for a lot of would be collectors during the earlier years. The Bulldog pellets remain my favourite example of commercial artwork from that or any other period.

    Regards

    Brian
    Dennis was my inspiration also when l first started collecting 1986, l bought a few guns off him over the years, and always looked forward to seeing him and having a chat at the arms fairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin bingham View Post
    i have put bids on a few collectable pellet tins on the auction site,i bid over what the consensus of value is as i want to compliment my pre war webley service and bsa first pattern,it seems fishy to me that recently they have all been sold at the next incremental bid,ie 50p more than my max bid,maybe the free listing policy leads to these shannanigans,all the best.
    Hi Martin...If you bid say £5.50 on a tin that started at 99p, and another guy bid £1000.00 pounds at the end, he would get it for under £6.00 As John says it's how it works.

    ATB, ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by edbear2 View Post
    Hi Martin...If you bid say £5.50 on a tin that started at 99p, and another guy bid £1000.00 pounds at the end, he would get it for under £6.00 As John says it's how it works.

    ATB, ED

    The above.
    Sometimes i've put very large maximum bids down against an item on the assumption (hope) that I'll end up winning by only a small amount. The gamble is, if the other bidder does the same, i'd lose the lot (as would he).

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    it is just that i mainly come 2nd,not 3rd,4th etc.oh well,never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin bingham View Post
    it is just that i mainly come 2nd,not 3rd,4th etc.oh well,never mind.
    Actually I agree with you Martin. It is hard to believe that so often when an item maxes out at a reasonable price there is just one bidder who has outbid you. I feel much more comfortable that an auction hasn't been rigged if there are two or three bids higher than mine.

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    It's either bid sniping, placing a manual bid at the last second, or someone using sniping softwear. Or, as sugested, you're just unlucky sometimes.
    The South of England has 2 good things, the M1 and the A1. Both will take you to Yorkshire.

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    I think it is more likely to be shill bidding, when an unscrupulous seller with access to two Bay accounts, probably the second account belonging to his wife or a friend, bids on his own item to nudge the price up as high as possible. If it doesn't max out at a figure that satisfies him then he just puts in one more bid. Immediate barring from the Bay if found out, but who bothers to check?

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