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    Quote Originally Posted by xbow View Post


    If that were true air rifle owners would need a firearms licence wouldn't they.
    Pedant alert.

    They are. But under the act those not capable of over 12ft-lb are those not requiring a license even though they're a firearm. That's why laws broken with them also carry firearm penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post

    They are. But under the act those not capable of over 12ft-lb are those not requiring a license even though they're a firearm. That's why laws broken with them also carry firearm penalties.


    As proper firearms use a chemical propellant to operate there are probably millions of Americans (and others) that would not only disagree with you but laugh at you as well, I have to agree. We both know Rob that the only reason the police, CPS and the judiciary CHOOSE to call a an air rifle a firearm is to demonise users should they end up in court. It just makes their life easier. You might obey the law Rob but surely you don't have to agree with the idiocy of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbow View Post


    As proper firearms use a chemical propellant to operate there are probably millions of Americans (and others) that would not only disagree with you but laugh at you as well, I have to agree. We both know Rob that the only reason the police, CPS and the judiciary CHOOSE to call a an air rifle a firearm is to demonise users should they end up in court. It just makes their life easier. You might obey the law Rob but surely you don't have to agree with the idiocy of it?
    No. I wasn't commenting on that though.

    If you want to check out the idiocy have a word with your FEO about putting an airgun on and off ticket. Apparently you can't because once on it's a firearm. Unless you speak to Dorset which up until at least a few years ago said it could be done (verbally) but that you needed an RFD to make a material change the the rifle...

    The whole air pistol over 6ft-lb being a sect 5 is just the icing on the cake.

    I don't think they want to demonise them. Someone just wrote laws and then kept amending them without fully realising the implications. The CPS have already got themselves tangled up over semi autos.

    The whole act needs a re-write.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbow View Post


    As proper firearms use a chemical propellant to operate there are probably millions of Americans (and others) that would not only disagree with you but laugh at you as well, I have to agree. We both know Rob that the only reason the police, CPS and the judiciary CHOOSE to call a an air rifle a firearm is to demonise users should they end up in court. It just makes their life easier. You might obey the law Rob but surely you don't have to agree with the idiocy of it?
    CO2 is a chemical, as is air. Its a compound of elements containing Oxygen amongst other things. Add dieseling lubes and you get combustion.

    No idiocy, its like the old Guns/weapons/rifles shite. We bicker they are not weapons because it somehow demonises them. The powers that be dont have time to write "Pistols, cannons, rifles, machine guns, rocket launchers, mortars etc", they just say "weapons". We seem to forget what they were designed to do and somehow conveniently filter this out to keep our feel good filter clear.

    Firearms are the same, its convenient, learn to live with it. Unless you want another tier for "Air Pistols, cannons, rifles, machine guns, rocket launchers, mortars etc under 12 fpe and Pistols, cannons, rifles, machine guns, rocket launchers, mortars over 12 fpe". Feel free to administer that and pay for it....I wont hold my breath.

    Firearms, get over it.
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