How does a Webley Tempest compare with a Mk1/Senior/Premier?

[Mr. Gen]

As tiltle chaps, yes realise the finish and construction of the Mk1/Senior and Premier better, but do they shoot well - accuracy wise and power? If fettled and in good order are they the same power?

As a left-hander, I hate the grips on the Tempest and have custom wooden grips on mine. I have recently handled a MK1 Webley and it feels far better than a Tempest.

Thanks.

The last steel premiers were the best air pistols Webley ever produced.

[harvey_s]

The last steel premiers were the best air pistols Webley ever produced.

Cannot agree - the new shape Senior knocks it into a cocked hat for quality of manufacture IMHO.

With regard to the OP's original question though - Funnily enough I took my Tempest and Senior to the club this week to have a play before a vintage pistol competition.
Over the chrono the Tempest averaged 419 fps over a 5 shot string and the Senior with a NOS leather and brass breech seal averaged 440 fps again over a shot string which I was chuffed at.
Physcially the Senior is a much more compact gun and feels better in my hand, they both have heavy triggers but the Senior has a longish creepy pull which is a function of the trigger design (this can be geatly reduced with careful polishing if you wish)
That said it doesn't seem to affect the gun adversely and I could actually produce tighter groups with it.

[fat man]

I own the Senior, Premier, Huraracane and 2 Tempists, each to me have there pros and cons. I find the Pre war Senior the most substantial to use , its a real piece of metal. The Hurracane and Tempists are alloy bodied and I have to admit I find the older gun easier to use as I like a pistol with a bit of weight. Saying that love my Tempists just as much.

[beagle2]

I have a late model black coated all steel .22 premier that has had very little use so is nice and tight when I got it a couple of years ago of this site the first thing that I did was to strip it down and give it a good clean and put molly paste over all of the moving parts. I have now sold all of my other guns but this is one that I will never sell on as I just love shooting it and with practice it is surprisingly accurate.

I have never seen it written down but I think that it was model'd on the colt 1911 as I had an airsoft 1911 and out of curiosity one day I put them one on top of the other and they are almost exactly the same size and shape. Both of them fit in your hand like a glove for me this is where other makes of gun go wrong they are to big to grip properly.

I have always preferred shooting .22 over .177 quite why I do not no if there is any fault to be found in them for me it has to be that they could do with more power. I find that the .22 is good over 7m but not to much more and the .177 is good for over 10m I would love to be able to shoot longer distance up to 20m but there is no way that they will do that.

At one time I had a .22 Hurican and I am shore that it was more powerful people have said that is not as powerful but for me it should be as the tube is larger in dia so must hold more air.

[Mr. Gen]

Cannot agree - the new shape Senior knocks it into a cocked hat for quality of manufacture IMHO.

With regard to the OP's original question though - Funnily enough I took my Tempest and Senior to the club this week to have a play before a vintage pistol competition.
Over the chrono the Tempest averaged 419 fps over a 5 shot string and the Senior with a NOS leather and brass breech seal averaged 440 fps again over a shot string which I was chuffed at.
Physcially the Senior is a much more compact gun and feels better in my hand, they both have heavy triggers but the Senior has a longish creepy pull which is a function of the trigger design (this can be geatly reduced with careful polishing if you wish)
That said it doesn't seem to affect the gun adversely and I could actually produce tighter groups with it.

There are a lot more non-functioning Seniors in people's cabinets than non-functioning Premiers.......

[harvey_s]

There are a lot more non-functioning Seniors in people's cabinets than non-functioning Premiers.......

You must be like father Christmas to have got round everyones cabinets to check before coming out with that factoid

[Carlos-w]

Love my Webley Premier E series,
even had walnut grips made for it, shoots like a pistol should the weight is just right the trigger pressure just right. Looks wise,.. not as good as a Tempest or Hurricane but that old chestnut don’t judge a book by its cover comes into play here. This old boy is as good as my Hurricane but smoother to shoot.

[Mr. Gen]

You must be like father Christmas to have got round everyones cabinets to check before coming out with that factoid

No - just making outrageous tentative statements based upon scant evidence

[harvey_s]

No - just making outrageous tentative statements based upon scant evidence

No problem - I can think of a few here that will enjoy your input...