Rapid 7 pros and cons

[Robbie1shot]

Well lads I decided to get a mk1 and i got a lovely clean one, thing is I don't like the trigger any suggestions. Cheers.

[kevG]

fit a trigger shoe.the sears can be polished to get rid of any creep.a little trick is to use tooth past as a mild polish.
kevG

[Jackel]

fit a trigger shoe.the sears can be polished to get rid of any creep.a little trick is to use tooth past as a mild polish.
kevG

Then sell it and buy an Air arms 410

[Shed tuner]

Well lads I decided to get a mk1 and i got a lovely clean one, thing is I don't like the trigger any suggestions. Cheers.

As a number of folks have posted on this thread a Welsh Wiley or CDT trigger blade can help a lot. Or just a polish and shoe as Kev suggested.

[Robbie1shot]

fit a trigger shoe.the sears can be polished to get rid of any creep.a little trick is to use tooth past as a mild polish.
kevG

Cheers kev

[salop sniper]

From personal experience I would chose a HW100 every day of the week and twice on a weekend over any Rapid.
I had a Rapid and to this day I hate that vile thing... Inaccurate, blew seals, mag springs pinging undone, no pressure gauge, internals messed with by every previous owner and there dog (as others say). No mater how simple it is to take a rifle a part don`t.... leave it to the professionals and pay the money to have it sorted correctly. I would rather spend a bit of extra over time cash or save a bit to afford it to be done properly rather than faff myself, get it wrong possibly having acted on other folks incorrect advise and have lost my time doing it only to have to pay some who knows what they are doing to put it right.
For me the Rapid is a sadist`s choice, someone who always wants there to be something wrong to mess with or repair/replace and improve. A rifle is for shooting not taking a part every 5 minutes, Keep the HW100 and use it, enjoy shooting it.

Below are others with the same thought and feelings, we have been there and tried it so can advise first hand !

ATB

Matt

Reason why you should buy a Rapid.
They are simple to work on.

Reason why you should not buy a Rapid.
They are simple to work on, so every man and possibly his dog too have had a go at "improving" it. Finding an unmolested one is hard. Finding an unmolested one in legal limits seems to be harder, I speak from experience here, bought a later model mark 1 with anti tamper on that was running at 14 ft lb with the anti tamper block still in place!

.The Rapid is an agricultural gun. That's its beauty. Its also its Achilles heel as the 100 is so much more refined and capable

If you like tinkering then the Rapid offers that opportunity.

Of the two I would go 100 and if you want shot count I would convert the 100 to a capacity bottle.

The trigger and mag system on the 100 is better than the Rapid - and to get a decent trigger on a rapid, you have to go to a newer version. Most rapid triggers are either poor or agricultural too.

However, they are both good kit and do what they say on the tin. I would recommend both but having had both, I would go for the 100 every single time.

The ONLY TRUE advantage I see in the Rapid over the 100 is if you stray into FAC outputs. The 100 is great as a sub 12 but pants in FAC and the Rapid is excellent in FAC. Even then, I love my Air Ranger better.

I think overall, I prefer the sophistication and slick operation of the 100. The mag system and even the SSA just cant be touched even in todays market.

I sold my HW100 S to fund a very nice condition mk2 in .177. Biggest air rifle related mistake I've made to date.

Even though it had numerous upgraded parts, My 100 was so much more accurate and the more easier and practical rifle to live with, I sold the rapid within a month.

[12/200]

From personal experience I would chose a HW100 every day of the week and twice on a weekend over any Rapid.
I had a Rapid and to this day I hate that vile thing... Inaccurate, blew seals, mag springs pinging undone, no pressure gauge, internals messed with by every previous owner and there dog (as others say). No mater how simple it is to take a rifle a part don`t.... leave it to the professionals and pay the money to have it sorted correctly. I would rather spend a bit of extra over time cash or save a bit to afford it to be done properly rather than faff myself, get it wrong possibly having acted on other folks incorrect advise and have lost my time doing it only to have to pay some who knows what they are doing to put it right.
For me the Rapid is a sadist`s choice, someone who always wants there to be something wrong to mess with or repair/replace and improve. A rifle is for shooting not taking a part every 5 minutes, Keep the HW100 and use it, enjoy shooting it.

Below are others with the same thought and feelings, we have been there and tried it so can advise first hand !

ATB

Matt

Just as well you didnt have a Daystate then

[salop sniper]

Just as well you didnt have a Daystate then

I had a MK4 for 7 years without a single issue and have had a FAC Huntsman classic 6years without issue too. If i did have a problem am half hour from daystate and would have them sort it for me!

[Steyr]

I had an Airwolf which was a nightmare and I have an air ranger which is sweet and a keeper. It is an FAC though which is another good FAC gun.

[secretagentmole]

From personal experience I would chose a HW100 every day of the week and twice on a weekend over any Rapid.
I had a Rapid and to this day I hate that vile thing... Inaccurate, blew seals, mag springs pinging undone, no pressure gauge, internals messed with by every previous owner and there dog (as others say). No mater how simple it is to take a rifle a part don`t.... leave it to the professionals and pay the money to have it sorted correctly. I would rather spend a bit of extra over time cash or save a bit to afford it to be done properly rather than faff myself, get it wrong possibly having acted on other folks incorrect advise and have lost my time doing it only to have to pay some who knows what they are doing to put it right.
For me the Rapid is a sadist`s choice, someone who always wants there to be something wrong to mess with or repair/replace and improve. A rifle is for shooting not taking a part every 5 minutes, Keep the HW100 and use it, enjoy shooting it.

Below are others with the same thought and feelings, we have been there and tried it so can advise first hand !

ATB

Matt

Matt, KevG can verify that mine was a rare as rockinghorse manure unmolested mark 1, still had the anti tamper in place, but still made 14 ft lb! Theoben quality was variable. Which is why mine went to see KevG who sorted it out for a price that did not make my eyes water and transformed the gun (actually made it legal for a bloody start).

It was accurate, the magazine was not a problem to load, quite simple in fact, once you got the knack of it! It was a good gun, problem is finding one that has not been in the hands of a bad tuner, there are many out there and many instructions on how to make them better, some tips are better than others, some people's abilities better than others.

If you do find one, my advice is to get it to someone who knows what they are doing, like KevG as they can sort the problems out.

[scrane]

The RAW HM1000 or HM1000x from the states is a very nice gun with an excellent reputation. It is a variation on the Rapid with a lever action. I ave two of them and they have been very reliable and very accurate.

[jon_h]

Matt, KevG can verify that mine was a rare as rockinghorse manure unmolested mark 1, still had the anti tamper in place, but still made 14 ft lb! Theoben quality was variable. Which is why mine went to see KevG who sorted it out for a price that did not make my eyes water and transformed the gun (actually made it legal for a bloody start).

It was accurate, the magazine was not a problem to load, quite simple in fact, once you got the knack of it! It was a good gun, problem is finding one that has not been in the hands of a bad tuner, there are many out there and many instructions on how to make them better, some tips are better than others, some people's abilities better than others.

If you do find one, my advice is to get it to someone who knows what they are doing, like KevG as they can sort the problems out.

Yes, another downside is that every part seems to be subject to change and inconsistency from factory spec. Having just found my mk2 block is missing some machining inside......
You get the impression there are a few "parts bin" rifles out there from factory.

But it does have the anschutz trigger so I'll forgive it.

[12/200]

Yes, another downside is that every part seems to be subject to change and inconsistency from factory spec. Having just found my mk2 block is missing some machining inside......
You get the impression there are a few "parts bin" rifles out there from factory.

But it does have the anschutz trigger so I'll forgive it.

I have heard a few came out via the factory back door, no idea if thats true or not

[kevG]

Yes, another downside is that every part seems to be subject to change and inconsistency from factory spec. Having just found my mk2 block is missing some machining inside......
You get the impression there are a few "parts bin" rifles out there from factory.

But it does have the anschutz trigger so I'll forgive it.

what machining is missing
kevG